flonicky
Senior Member
And they're not just adding a park, it's a step towards completing a park corridor ... in an area with a relatively limited amount of parkland!
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TossYourJacket
Senior Member
I bet most of the people who signed the petition A) own homes, and B) don't live in the area and just don't want to give up cheap parking.I hate to link to BlogTO, but this is so ridiculous I couldn't let it go:
Toronto neighbourhood fighting back against plan to turn parking lot into park
Though Toronto may have been designed with cars in mind, the City has been re-assessing its road infrastructure in recent years, adding dozens of kil…www.blogto.com
"Save our parking / preserve our community"
A friend who sent this to me pointed out that they're doing a reverse Big Yellow Taxi.
christiesplits
Senior Member
Not Toronto, but just down the QEW.
A Hamilton city council committee voted against affordable housing on a parking lot. One of the "No" votes was from city councillor Ted McMeekin, the former Ontario Liberal Minister of Housing (!).
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At stake is two city-owned parking lots comprising just over an acre in Stoney Creekwww.inthehammer.com
Update: Final decision at council loses on an 8-8 tie. The parking lot prevails.
CBC Hamilton: Stoney Creek parking spots triumph over affordable housing after final council vote
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christiesplits
Senior Member
rdaner
Senior Member
Northern Light
Superstar
This one passed on Wednesday using the above noted Strong Mayor Powers: (8 to 8 vote)
‘It’s going to take us all’: Mayor’s veto advances affordable housing plan in Stoney Creek
But opponents of Stoney Creek project call Horwath’s move ‘undemocratic’
www.thestar.com
From the above:
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Lots of inflammatory rhetoric from opponents using terms like undemocratic and authoritarian.
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I support this project and found the Nimbyism here off putting.
That said, I do think the essential principle of democracy matters (the inflated hyperbole above being far too much).
Its always a concern of mine that when things are 'forced' on people, you trigger a reaction. This one development isn't likely to cause that measure of blowback, but there is a need to tread lightly
or perhaps a Mayor politically opposite to Horvath will be elected in 2026.
At which point this project and others could be spiked using the same powers.
I don't oppose the use of the Mayor's powers here, and to be clear 50% of Council voted for this; so its not as if there was a clear majority opposed; but I always want to be mindful that one step forward should not lead to
two steps backwards.
Towered
Superstar
That depends - is this issue causing uproar across the wider city, or is it confined to a small neighbourhood NIMBY group?This one passed on Wednesday using the above noted Strong Mayor Powers: (8 to 8 vote)
‘It’s going to take us all’: Mayor’s veto advances affordable housing plan in Stoney Creek
But opponents of Stoney Creek project call Horwath’s move ‘undemocratic’
From the above:
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Lots of inflammatory rhetoric from opponents using terms like undemocratic and authoritarian.
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I support this project and found the Nimbyism here off putting.
That said, I do think the essential principle of democracy matters (the inflated hyperbole above being far too much).
Its always a concern of mine that when things are 'forced' on people, you trigger a reaction. This one development isn't likely to cause that measure of blowback, but there is a need to tread lightly
or perhaps a Mayor politically opposite to Horvath will be elected in 2026.
At which point this project and others could be spiked using the same powers.
I don't oppose the use of the Mayor's powers here, and to be clear 50% of Council voted for this; so its not as if there was a clear majority opposed; but I always want to be mindful that one step forward should not lead to
two steps backwards.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
I wonder how much existing affordable, subsidized or emergency housing is nearby. It might be a case of the locals pushing back against a new social housing project when their neighbourhood is already over represented in the category. I know where I live if you drew a 5 km circle you’d likely find close to half of Toronto’s emergency shelters and RGI housing. I’m all for housing all Canadians ansd PRs, but we all need to do our share. Maybe you’re right and it’s just nimby obstructionists, but there may be more to the onion.
Draw a circle with a radius on a map
vic
Senior Member
STOP THE DEMOLITION!
picard102
Senior Member
What are they building there? I don't see an entry on the map.
christiesplits
Senior Member
Move over Earlscourt Park and Wychwood Barns. "Car Park 246" is St. Clair West's true crown jewel.
DSC
Superstar
It appears to be in a Hydro Corridor - does some lefty want to build a bike or walking path?
Northern Light
Superstar
A public park!
LOL
Residents petition to preserve 'vital' west Toronto parking lot slated to be turned into a park
More than 200 people are calling on Davenport Coun. Alejandra Bravo to prevent the demolition of what they are calling a “vital community parking lot” in Toronto’s Earlscourt area.
www.cp24.com
smably
Senior Member
This is truly one for the ages.
We've got the tone of panic. We've got unnecessary! exclamation!! marks!!! We've got a vague slogan: "Preserve our community" (apparently their community is a parking lot?). And of course we've got no mention of what might replace the parking lot. Surely they aren't intentionally hiding the fact that it's... a public park? LOL!
picard102
Senior Member
Maybe increase the parking fee to a level that is financially sustainable for their lease and see how much it gets used.