jetsbackincanada
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Has anyone else noticed, how much the Delta renders look like some of the speculative renders of 45 Bay??
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sodapop
Active Member
i had been thinking that. its weird how 2 totally different towers (1 office one hotel) can be so close together and incidentally look so similar in design.....
Dan416
Senior Member
But 45 Bay isn't a real proposal so you can't really compare the two.
sodapop
Active Member
yeah but there is the visionary renders (which probably won't urn out exactly like the building)
Automation Gallery
Superstar
yeah but there is the visionary renders (which probably won't urn out exactly like the building)
Probably not..although the 45 Bay st. render was actually on the SITQ site.
jetsbackincanada
Banned
It makes me wonder if the render of the 45 bay, was actually for the Delta, and someone got confused??? or misinformed???
or misinformed???
Ramako
Moderator
It makes me wonder if the render of the 45 bay, was actually for the Delta, and someone got confused???
No.
maestro
Senior Member
The design only had 45 Bay plastered all over it and appears on the SITQ site. It is the working design but, with every commercial development, it's build to suit. No doubt SITQ will make the necessary design adjustments to sign a long term lead such as CF did for RBC. RBC wanted larger floorplates which led to a taller podium and shorter tower.
androiduk
Senior Member
Application: Partial Permit Status: Not Started
Location: 120 BREMNER BLVD
TORONTO ON
Ward 20: Trinity-Spadina
Application#: 10 255756 FND 00 PP Accepted Date: Dec 10, 2010
Project: Mixed Use/Res w Non Res Partial Permit - Foundation
Description: Part Permit - permit for construction of new mixed use building with Hotel and Retail uses. PLEASE NOTE THAT UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE WILL SERVICE HOTEL BUILDING AS WELL AS NEW OFFICE BUILDING TO BE APPLIED FOR AT A LATER DATE ON THE SAME SITE. - 47 Storey Hotel. 566 rooms - 3 levels of underground parking - 379 parking spaces - plus 26 small car parking spaces - all spaces to be divided between buildings. - SEE REFERENCE PACKAGE OF NEW OFFICE BUILDING.
Location: 120 BREMNER BLVD
TORONTO ON
Ward 20: Trinity-Spadina
Application#: 10 255756 FND 00 PP Accepted Date: Dec 10, 2010
Project: Mixed Use/Res w Non Res Partial Permit - Foundation
Description: Part Permit - permit for construction of new mixed use building with Hotel and Retail uses. PLEASE NOTE THAT UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE WILL SERVICE HOTEL BUILDING AS WELL AS NEW OFFICE BUILDING TO BE APPLIED FOR AT A LATER DATE ON THE SAME SITE. - 47 Storey Hotel. 566 rooms - 3 levels of underground parking - 379 parking spaces - plus 26 small car parking spaces - all spaces to be divided between buildings. - SEE REFERENCE PACKAGE OF NEW OFFICE BUILDING.
whatever
Senior Member
So the hotel goes up before the office?
Big Daddy
Senior Member
Interesting – with all the talk about the need for office space, both ICE and now this project are holding back on office space that could easily be in the ground in January – and building the office tower at the same time as the adjacent building would be so much cheaper.
I guess we have to read something from this – the office market isn’t nearly as strong as the reports were telling us.
Automation Gallery
Superstar
Yeah, but with Ice they did not even excavate for the office building..here it looks like they are going to excavate the whole lot, which again makes me think that in a years time when it reaches ground level the office component may be ready to proceed. Dont know..
taal
Senior Member
I personally don't think the market is that hot ..
Having said that, this likely means nothing ... they're just as likely to apply for the office building in the next week or so i.e. there's no indication of how long it'll be.
Having said that, this likely means nothing ... they're just as likely to apply for the office building in the next week or so i.e. there's no indication of how long it'll be.
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Superstar
Well taal..from reading your past posts on proposed office space in Toronto, i wouldnt expect anything else other than that remark.
taal
Senior Member
Well taal..from reading your past posts on proposed office space in Toronto, i wouldnt expect anything else other than that remark.
Most of us agreed about my views in regards to the suburban Toronto office market (i.e. outer 416).Anyway, I'll rephrase that a little ... the market is doing a lot better then many / most predicted - there were many preconditions for 14%+ vacancy rates by this point - and it just didn't happen. In fact quite the opposite did.
All I really mean is there's a large block of vacancies in our older AAA buildings. But you know what, everything single new large scale office development is 85% leased or more - including RBC / Telus / BA / MLS / Price water house.
So I guess that should tell us there is demand - at least in the core for new space.
Anyway, I'm still predicting this building goes up NOW (the office component) all press releases have indicated that much - why would they suddenly change their mind ? The ICE project office component hasn't even been marketed yet!
i.e. BA2 is farther along as they've already starting pre-leasing - a couple other projects as well - this doesn't mean they'll start but still ...