St Lawrence Market North

Developer: City of Toronto
Architect: Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners, Adamson Associates Architects
  
Address: 92 Front St E, Toronto, Canada
Category: Institutional, Commercial (Office, Retail), Public Space / Park
Status: ConstructionCrane(s): 0
Height: 83 ft / 25.30 mStoreys: 5 storeys
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Jonny5 said:
Speaking of that, I do not understand Biagio. I have passed passed by on hundreds of occasions at different times of day and on different days of the week and I rarely see more than two or three tables occupied inside, and sometimes none.
Is there some mystery time where everyone shows up and leaves and I miss them in there? Is it one of those restaurants for people who like to eat dinner at 10:30 p.m.?
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Mafia money
 
Nice to see outdated stereotypes are alive and well in this group...
 
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xmyth_ said:
BlogTO posted about the tent coming down fwiw
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Yes, fwiw. Of course the tent is coming down 'one day' as the site will either be used for a new District Library or a new Library plus housing or for housing. Though the Farmers will, eventually (maybe March), move to the new North Market, I understand the tent will remain until the site is required for something else - or if it is needed elsewhere.
 
DSCToronto said:
Yes, fwiw. Of course the tent is coming down 'one day' as the site will either be used for a new District Library or a new Library plus housing or for housing. Though the Farmers will, eventually (maybe March), move to the new North Market, I understand the tent will remain until the site is required for something else - or if it is needed elsewhere.
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I’d love to see the tent removed and the space used as a temporary outdoor market until plans are ready for redevelopment. The successful Christmas market on Market Street could be made a year round attraction on this site by repurposing the stalls and allowing small businesses to operate throughout the year, kind of like a mini Stackt Market. Combined with the summer pedestrianization of Market Street, it would easily become a destination.
 
Vminkov said:
a glorified auto repair shop, both in form and materiality
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That's a bit harsh, LOL.

That said, for the money spent here, the value was not achieved.

I'm ok w/the exposed metal and the concrete floors, I think that fits w/the desired modern industrial vibe and aligns in some measure w/the south market.

Aside from the VE'ing of aspect of the massing/form, which reduced the architectural flourish some.........

I see the biggest issues as inter-related....the first floor ceiling height is too low given the building's purpose. That doesn't just diminish 'grandeur', it's a real nuisance, a practical issue, it also reduces natural light penetration into the interior of the space.

Relatedly, I don't care for the lighting, it seems more office like, off-point.......and I would liked to see something more industrial pendant style, with uplighting on the columns, that, however, requires higher ceilings.

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For all of that, I really would have preferred, with apologies to the winning bidder here, if we'd replaced the north market with an earlier iteration of same that better fit with St. Lawrence Hall to the north.

This is one of our more intact historical areas in the City, but still littered with modern of varying degrees of quality and compatibility. A more late 19th/early 20thC vibe here, with tweaks for accessibility and fire code was the way to go.

But the original Rogers design still offered a lot, pre-VE, and while this is hardly terrible, it isn't what it could or should have been.
 
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Northern Light said:
That's a bit harsh, LOL.

That said, for the money spent here, the value was not achieved.

I'm ok w/the exposed metal and the concrete floors, I think that fits w/the desired modern industrial vibe and aligns in some measure w/the south market.

Aside from the VE'ing of aspect of the massing/form, which reduced the architectural flourish some.........

I see the biggest issues as inter-related....the first floor ceiling height is too low given the building's purpose. That doesn't just diminish 'grandeur', it's a real nuisance, a practical issue, it also reduces natural light penetration into the interior of the space.

Relatedly, I don't care for the lighting, it seems more office like, off-point.......and I would liked to see something more industrial pendant style, with uplighting on the columns, that, however, requires higher ceilings.

****

For all of that, I really would have preferred, with apologies to the winner bidder here, if we'd replaced the north market with an earlier iteration of same that better fit with St. Lawrence Hall to the north.

This is one of our more intact historical areas in the City, but still littered with modern of varying degrees of quality and compatibility. A more late 19th/early 20thC vibe here, with tweaks for accessibility and fire code was the way to go.

But the original Rogers design still offered a lot, pre-VE, and while this is hardly terrible, it isn't what it could or should have been.
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I have more sympathetic words for the building's architecture and massing as a whole, I was commenting on the ground floor interior. I don't think my words are harsh, I think the space is harsh!
 
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