Glen
Senior Member
That's not what you were addressing. You're blaming congestion in North York on a condo boom in an area that was slated to receive a few more office towers. The flaws in this reasoning include assuming there was no congestion before amalgamation, neglecting the tremendous growth of areas beyond North York, and the fact that pre-existing transit will not prevent congestion, just help relieve it.
I guess you were referring to my point (which was secondary) that "Now the area is one of the most heavily congested the city." I will clarify, being predominantly residential traffic flows are heavily lopsided. Morning outbound, evening inbound. Such unevenness magnifies congestion.
I don't think you realize how much residential development in NYCC pre-dates or was built at the same time as the late-80s/early-90s office boom. You're also underestimating how much traffic would be generated by additional office towers, especially if they have large retail components, even though they'd be right at subway stations. One problem is that the suburban centres like NYCC were only connected by transit to downtown, and not to each other, the rest of suburban 416, or the 905.
From an Oct 2007 thread.......
Built since 1995
1. 63-83 Drewry/Fairchild
2. PArk Place
3. Finch / Pemberton
4. Finch / Pemberton
5. The Paramount
6. Fince / Kenneth Drive
7. 15-27 Lorraine
8. Northtown
10. 5412-5422 Yonge, 15 Hosham
11. Northtown Phase C
12. Dominion Store
13. Empress Plaza
14. Empress Plaza
15. Empress Plaza
16. Hillcrest/Doris/Elmwood
17. 77-95 Spring Garden, 153 Doris
18. 15-19 Finch/Lorraine
19. 5575 Yonge, 11,15-25 Finch East
20. 16-30 Byng
21. Northtown
22. 880 Grandview
23. 12. McKee, 330 Doris, 21 Church
24. 18 Parkview
25. 17-25 Hillcrest, 18-22 Elmwood
26. 5000 Yonge
27. 43 Sheppard East
28. Yonge and Avondale
29. 40-62 Byng, 35 Holmes
30. Northtown way
38. Northtown Phase A
39. Northtown Phase B
40. 24-44 Horsham, 29-39, 45 Hounslow
41. 70-102 Ellerslie
42. Yonge/Norton Centre I
43. Yonge/Norton Centre II
44. Parkview/Doris/Kingsdale
45. 20-32 Empress, 14,15,21 Kingsdale
46. 69,70 Ellerslie
47. 76 Spring Garden
48. Sheppard East/Clartrell
49. The Empire, 28-38 Kenaston Gardens
50. The Chelsea, 19 Barberry
51. Amica at Bayview, 15 Barberry
52. St. Gabriele's church
53. NY Towers 1
54. NY Towers 2
55. NY Towers 3
56. NY Towers 4
57. NY Towers 5
58. Canadian Tire Store
59. 53 Cummer
60. Menkes, Bales
61. Loblaws, Bayview Village
62. 2831 Bayview
63. 50 Spring Garden
64. The Rockerfeller, 12-26 Kenastron Gardens
65. 55-61 Drewry
66. 426-442 Kenneth
67. 1 & 19 Avondale
68. 5176 Yonge
69 33 Drewry
Under Construction
1. 4917-4995 Yonge, 8-18 Spring Garden
2. 5566 Yonge
3. 170 Sheppard East
4. Finch/Lorraine/Blakley
5. 8,10 & 12 Clairtrell
6. 12,14,16 Rean, The Claridges
7. 1019 Sheppard Ave E, Canadian Tire
8. Fince/Duplex/Greenview
9. 19-27 Churchill
10. Northtown (Phase 2)
Approved
1. 43 Drewry
2. 5270&5290 Yonge
3. 5200 Yonge
4. 4800 Yonge
5. N/W Yonge/Poyntz
6. 120 Sheppard Ave E
7. 4804-4812 Yonge/20 Sheppard Ave W
8. Dangreen/Orlando/Bayview/Sheppard
9. The Chelsea, 19 Barberry
10. Mini Skools, 685 Sheppard
11. Post Office, 699 Sheppard
12. Canadian Tire Site
13. Fairview Mall
14. 1200 Sheppard Ave E
15. 5795 Yonge
16. 9&11 Clairtrell
17. Parkview Forrest
18. 2924-2929 Bayview
19. 25 Canterbury
20. 650-672 Sheppard Ave E
21. 603 Sheppard Ave E
22. Buchan Court
Proposed
1. Gibson Square
2. Fairview Mall
3. Oakburn Apartments
4. 55-65 Ellerslie
5. Willowdale Plaza
6. 5350 Yonge
7. 9 McKee
8. 43 Sheppard East
9. 16-22 Clairtrell
10. 19-37 Olive & 18-31 Holmes
The article notes that in the last 9 years 20,264 units have been approved and of those 16,000 have been built or are under construction in NYCC, also 312,748 sq.m. of non-res GFA has been added to North York.
Note the low amount on non residential.