SaugeenJunction
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Some really rare mileage - CP power leads a CN train through the Metrolinx Weston tunnel. More here.
edit: Here is a detour video:
edit: Here is a detour video:
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Allandale25
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Cataraqui Spur Derailment - March 25, 2020
Again today, CN No 518 derailed on CN's Cataraqui Spur heading to the lakefront Invista nylon plant here in Kingston. Every three week...
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Allandale25
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lenaitch
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The last couple of weeks there has been a contract maintenance crew doing track work in the Myrtle area.
The station in Havelock has a fairly decent restaurant in it (for when, you know, restaurants become legal again).
The station in Havelock has a fairly decent restaurant in it (for when, you know, restaurants become legal again).
SaugeenJunction
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drum118
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June 26
Just finish shooting the Regional Hub From the GO platform when this auto rack train show up with a nice power lash up: CP 6230 EMD SD60 Built 3/1989 + NS 9805 GE C40-9W + BNSF 8446 EMD SD70ACe On Point Of An CP Eastbound Auto Rack Train At Kipling GO Station
Just finish shooting the Regional Hub From the GO platform when this auto rack train show up with a nice power lash up: CP 6230 EMD SD60 Built 3/1989 + NS 9805 GE C40-9W + BNSF 8446 EMD SD70ACe On Point Of An CP Eastbound Auto Rack Train At Kipling GO Station
Northern Light
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June 26
Just finish shooting the Regional Hub From the GO platform when this auto rack train show up with a nice power lash up: CP 6230 EMD SD60 Built 3/1989 + NS 9805 GE C40-9W + BNSF 8446 EMD SD70ACe On Point Of An CP Eastbound Auto Rack Train At Kipling GO Station
How does that work?
I get running rights where one railway runs over the other's tracks for a distance...........
But how do you get power from 3 different railways in one consist and how does that read on the books, financially?
44 North
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BNSF? I don't see that too often
drum118
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Pooled power agreements, often called “run-through power,” streamline the interchange process. Cheaper to do, as you don't have to swap locomotives out at X point/crew change, with only the down time is changing crews that done very quickly. This has been taking place for decades.
Railroads are able to exchange trains without exchanging locomotives, which saves time and money. These arrangements are usually billed by the horsepower hour, meaning railroads pay for the power of a given locomotive for the time it is used. Sometimes, when the train reaches its destination, the power is used for other jobs by the receiving railroad before being sent back home.
Have seen all power on a train by X railway on X line in place of their own. Have seen a few CP trains with no CP power on them.
Seeing BN up here is rare compare to CSX or NS. Even UP is a rare sight. Got to see a lot of BN stuff last year as well GN of all thing. Model GN mostly, with other US lines that don't exist today.
kali
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I see BNSF at the Doncaster Diamond every now and then
lenaitch
Senior Member
The lead power is CP so their equipment and crew is operating the train. Run through power makes sense if it is, for example, a BNSF-originated train moving through CP territory by agreement because it's cheaper. I don't see that here. With the variety of power, I suspect it is either leased or part of a 'horsepower-hours sharing arrangement' which is sort of a lend-lease program where I use yours and you use mine and we figure out the costs based on horsepowerxhours.
drum118
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Here is an example of CSX using BN equipment in place of their own; CSX Crew change will take place 2 miles down the line for eastbound train. Westbound Crew change takes place at this location
Buffalo NY Photo: BNSF 4594 GE C44-9W Built 11/1999, BNSF 7546 GE ES44DC Built 5-2007, BNSF 7095 GE ES44C4 Built 8/2012 Eastbound At CSX Frontier Yard May 15, 2017
CP Rail Motor Power GE ES44AC 8907 Built 8-2011 Westbound At Buffalo CSX Frontier Crew Change Point In place of CSX power December 28, 2011
Buffalo NY Photo: BNSF 4594 GE C44-9W Built 11/1999, BNSF 7546 GE ES44DC Built 5-2007, BNSF 7095 GE ES44C4 Built 8/2012 Eastbound At CSX Frontier Yard May 15, 2017
CP Rail Motor Power GE ES44AC 8907 Built 8-2011 Westbound At Buffalo CSX Frontier Crew Change Point In place of CSX power December 28, 2011
Allandale25
Senior Member
Throwback.
lenaitch
Senior Member
I have only the vaguest of childhood memories of seeing steam road power while visiting a relative who lived near the lakeshore line. I saw 2816 when it was on an eastern Canada tour a number of years ago. Quite the thing to see and hear a steam loco running at mainline track speed. I wonder if the Go coaches were for a railfan excursion.
smallspy
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In 2002 and 2003, CPR embarked on a pair of cross-Canada tours with 2816. In both years, they ran excursions from Union Station out to Milton and back, using GO equipment. In 2002, I recall, they actually ran the train all the way out to Guelph Junction and turned the whole train on the wye with the Hamilton Sub for the return trip back to Union. That's what that video was of - the train on its outbound trip climbing the escarpment just east of Campbellville.
Dan