Willybru21
Active Member
I guess this is technically a map:
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Railrunner
Active Member
Love it. I will always be a Collingwood/Wasaga/ BM Go Train booster.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
I'm not sure it classifies as a fantasy, but it would be nice if Metrolinx had the foresight to put properties next to these diamonds that would block the creation of tracks connecting these lines on development hold. By doing so they would prevent a more costly land acquisition in the future and at some point be able to build these connections so that there would be better redundancy in the system without reversing trains mid-route. If the trains were fully automated I guess this would be less of an impact but I think we are a ways from that.
Willybru21
Active Member
Another week another round of stuff:
tmustudent9
New Member
Do you happen to have a link to the report?
micheal_can
Senior Member
One 'fantasy' I had for the GTA is to build streetcars on all "consession and side roads" in any built up area. Let the buses deal with the last mile.
Willybru21
Active Member
From what I know the report was never made public, I got all my information from this CBC article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/up-express-overhaul-1.5296554
tmustudent9
New Member
Thank you!
JasonParis
Moderator
It would be getting awfully close to Bramalea, but I think the case for a "new" Malton station would still be there. Just a bit west of the current, somewhere in the industrial park. Heck, a "downtown Malton" could maybe even (re)surface.
valvenis
New Member
All of the various fantasy maps I've seen here make me wonder what it would look like if all of the giant parking structures at many Go Stations were all torn down and replaced with transit oriented development.
Sunnyside
Active Member
There’s a good number of diversions, tunnels etc that GO could build to make the network even better. I think these get thrown around a lot, but ultimately get shelved because the case isn’t there today and Mx don’t know what post-electrification will look like. But in a world where these are seen as subway lines, small diversions strike me as prudent. They are the exact incremental changes we’d want to see, not being super costly in isolation but together you end up with a network that can hit trip generators right on the nose. These will be the “easy wins” of tommorrow, no doubt.
Let’s throw around some that could be viable:
1. Pearson/Kitchener Diversion (pictured)
2. Milton to MCC
3. Stouffville to STC (via SRT ROW) and/or Malvern
4. Barrie to VMC/Canada’s wonderland via CN yard?
I’m sure there’s more, just can’t think of em right now.
micheal_can
Senior Member
A lot of the housing problems would be solved.
Undead
Senior Member
That's doubtful.
And I worry about eliminating parking without providing a viable way to access stations through active+public transit. Having no parking risks pushing away the current ridership.
Robust last mile bus and bike connections are more important in my view than the stations' immediate surroundings. But yes, the latter should also be thoughtfully reimagined into a more urban form.
micheal_can
Senior Member
If all the parking lots were instantly converted to 20 story towers, that would east the housing issues. Show me how it cant.
They did not ask about the effects to the users of GO. Better local transit would go along way to removing the need for such large parking lots. So would fare integration.
Undead
Senior Member
Yes I acknowledged this.
Conjecture on my part, but I don't see any other logical answer given how much "population growth" is a cash cow for everyone in this country: the feds will just bring more people than any amount of supply we can put on the market (at their developer/bankster pals' request).