[Woodbridge_Heights]

IMO Pearson's potential as a transit hub depends on creating connections to the surrounding employment areas, not just the airport itself. I'd also like to see a plan for the surrounding area to create a more urban environment in the surrounding area.

 

[Streety McCarface]

IMO Pearson's potential as a transit hub depends on creating connections to the surrounding employment areas, not just the airport itself. I'd also like to see a plan for the surrounding area to create a more urban environment in the surrounding area.

You cannot create an urban environment around there, it's an airport, surrounded by huge industrial complexes. It's not Queens. There are height restrictions and noise issues, one needs to strengthen the public transportation network in the area, with the TTC, Brampton Transit, and MiWay probably needing some sort of integration in order to serve the area well.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

It's also really diffuse - it's laughable when comparison (in terms of number of jobs) with the downtown core gets dragged out without consideration of the difference in the size of the area in question.

AoD

 

[W. K. Lis]

You cannot create an urban environment around there, it's an airport, surrounded by huge industrial complexes. It's not Queens. There are height restrictions and noise issues, one needs to strengthen the public transportation network in the area, with the TTC, Brampton Transit, and MiWay probably needing some sort of integration in order to serve the area well.

The parking lots could be filled with new developments. Especially those near the stations. As for noise, it should be acceptable for office use, unless you're sleeping at your desk.

 

[Neutrino]

The parking lots could be filled with new developments. Especially those near the stations. As for noise, it should be acceptable for office use, unless you're sleeping at your desk.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...ows-its-a-landlords-market-advocates-say.html

 

[Streety McCarface]

The parking lots could be filled with new developments. Especially those near the stations. As for noise, it should be acceptable for office use, unless you're sleeping at your desk.

Office space makes sense, and with improved transit and reduced parking minimums, eventually companies will want to expand their facilities into their parking lots. It's only logical for them to do so, especially if transit becomes the dominant mode in the area.

 

[raptor]

Latest GO Transit ridership:

https://metrolinx.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/click-here-to-view-the-map-in-detail.pdf

The Niagara extension gets 23 people daily. I'm the biggest proponent of increased train service, but this is ridiculous.
York U's ridership (129 daily) is lower than Downsview Park's. Time to shut down York U for good.

 

[Jonny5]

Latest GO Transit ridership:

https://metrolinx.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/click-here-to-view-the-map-in-detail.pdf

I don't know much about the Lisgar station area. Why is it so low compared to others on the line?
I recall it's not an old station, but not brand new either. Why would ridership be down when adjacent stations have ~4%? increases in riders?
Is the station worth keeping for under 900 passengers per day?

 

[rbt]

Latest GO Transit ridership:

https://metrolinx.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/click-here-to-view-the-map-in-detail.pdf

The construction impact is interesting. 4 of 5 stations marked with construction had well below average growth for the corridor they're on. Guildwood indicates completion of construction causes a short burst of growth. Have any other stations finished construction recently?

Also 9 GO stations (includes Union) with higher ridership than Bessarion Station.

 

[doady]

Daily boardings seem to include weekends for Lakeshore which is annoying because that makes them not comparable to daily boardings for the other lines. It should be weekday boardings only. It is easy enough to divide by 30 anyways.

I wish also the total for each line also included boardings at Union to get a true measure of the ridership of each line. The total ridership figure is mostly incoming riders only, not much if any outgoing riders.

Compared to 1996, ridership at Meadowvale, Streetsville, Erindale, and Cooksville have grown 30-80%. Dixie and Kipling have doubled ridership. Milton line overall had 20k boardings in 1996, it is probably over 30k now. But again, without knowing the amount of boardings at Union it is impossible to know for sure.

The true daily boardings total for each line in 2016:

Lakeshore West 61,882
Milton 29,028
Kitchener 22,353
Barrie 19,101
Richmond Hill 10,688
Stouffville 16,010
Lakeshore East 49,542

http://dmg.utoronto.ca/pdf/tts/2016/2016TTS_DataExpansion.pdf#page=93

 

[Divas S.]

I don't know much about the Lisgar station area. Why is it so low compared to others on the line?
I recall it's not an old station, but not brand new either. Why would ridership be down when adjacent stations have ~4%? increases in riders?
Is the station worth keeping for under 900 passengers per day?

it's next to a subdivision with no connections to the station with a shopping plaza and a warehouse on the other side cut off by 100m hydro right of way, there's tonnes of room for more buildings but ridership will probably continue to be low unless connections are improved and more housing is built.

 

[11th]

The construction impact is interesting. 4 of 5 stations marked with construction had well below average growth for the corridor they're on. Guildwood indicates completion of construction causes a short burst of growth. Have any other stations finished construction recently?

Also 9 GO stations (includes Union) with higher ridership than Bessarion Station.

Hardly surprising. Most of those nine stations are hub/central stations of the city they are located in.

 

[smallspy]

it's next to a subdivision with no connections to the station with a shopping plaza and a warehouse on the other side cut off by 100m hydro right of way, there's tonnes of room for more buildings but ridership will probably continue to be low unless connections are improved and more housing is built.

Another, and quite possibily the most important, reason is that its catchment area is almost exclusively to the east of the station - most people would have to backtrack to get to it. It's original purpose to was to help capture people coming from east Milton off of the 401, but it seems that those people are now willing to backtrack to the Milton station - likely to get a better seat.

Dan

 

[ShonTron]

it's next to a subdivision with no connections to the station with a shopping plaza and a warehouse on the other side cut off by 100m hydro right of way, there's tonnes of room for more buildings but ridership will probably continue to be low unless connections are improved and more housing is built.

It's also surprisingly awkward to get to the nearby Highway 401. Lisgar's main purpose was to relieve parking at Meadowvale and Georgetown Stations.

 

[innsertnamehere]

Note the ridership boost on inner Toronto GO stations with the new fare structure. Agincourt is basically the only station in Toronto that isn't posting 10% ridership growth, and that is likely mostly attributable to construction.