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I'd have some serious concerns about cold weather performance at least from 1.0 buses, doesn't seem many have been used in a cold climate.

Batteries do perform worse in the cold. But not as bad as some want to believe. A couple of positives....the weight helps on snow covered roads and turning on from cold does not cause stress on the engine.

And there have been lots of tests in Europe, and cold cities in Asia. Canada is not unique.
 
One of the complaints about electric buses are the size and mass of the batteries they carry. However, they are getting smaller and with a larger storage capacity.

BC Transit has a report on Battery Electric Bus Technology Review, at this link.

There is another report on Buses and batteries: a rising sector at this link.

The electric bus market has been singled out as a potential game changer for battery development, due to growing e-bus demand and the need for sizeable batteries to power them. A new report by Victoria Adesanya-Aworinde at IDTechEx Research highlights the future and prospects of this industry, as well as the significant role being played by China.

Currently, China dominates the electric bus and battery market, with 97% of e-buses and 75% of their batteries produced there. They manufacture the most common batteries, lithium-iron phosphate (LFP), while nickel manganese cobalt (NMC) batteries are largely made elsewhere.

BYD, the $38bn Chinese conglomerate, owns a factory that manufactures e-buses which can travel 155 miles on one charge, and cost $800,000. They’re powered by a 324kWh lithium-iron phosphate battery (LFP), which can also be used to store renewable energy from solar panels or wind turbines.

There’s also a smaller battery pack version which powers an electronic SUV, giving it a range of 186 miles on a charge. In comparison, most electric cars currently get on the market get about 75 miles.

LFP vs NMC (lithium-iron phosphate vs nickel manganese cobalt)
LFP batteries are generally safer than NMC lithium-ion technologies, which is vital, especially for the large ones in electric buses. Bigger batteries cause bigger accidents and hefty ones inside e-buses could result in massive amounts of toxic, flammable leakage. Adesanya-Aworinde says that LFPs also tend to be cheaper, as NMCs contain expensive cobalt.

About 80% of electric car batteries are comprised of LFP, but if the safety of NMC technology improves, these batteries could account for almost half of the whole battery market. Adesanya-Aworinde estimates that this will probably happen by 2025, which could very much open up the market to the whole world and reduce China’s hold.

She says that NMCs are a good competitor to LFP batteries because of their better charging rates and higher energy density, but it’s a wait-and-see situation in terms of where the technology goes in the next few years.

An online version of the report can be accessed here.
 
We are in the first quarter of 2018.

Back in November, 2017, there was a Green Bus Technology Plan. See link. It was recommended that:

  1. The Board delegate authority to the TTC CEO to negotiate and enter into up to three contracts for the supply of a total of 30 long range battery electric buses not to exceed the total project cost of $50M based on the following:

    a) The award of contract(s) will be based on negotiating an acceptable agreement, satisfactory to the TTC General Council with the only three qualified long range battery electric bus suppliers, New Flyer, Proterra and BYD that are compliant with Transport Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards; and

    b) All 30 battery electric buses are to be delivered no later than March 31, 2019 in order to ensure that the buses are eligible for PTIF funding.

  2. The Board delegate authority to the TTC CEO to enter into a contract(s) with up to two suppliers for the supply of 230 new generation hybrid electric buses not to exceed the total project cost of $230M based on the following:

    a) The award of the contract(s) will be based on negotiating an acceptable agreement, satisfactory to TTC General Council with the only two bus suppliers, Nova Bus and New Flyer, capable of manufacturing hybrid electric buses that are compliant with Transport Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards; and

    b) Hybrid electric buses are to be delivered no later than March 31, 2019 in order to ensure that the buses are eligible for PTIF funding

  3. Staff return to the TTC Board in Q1 of 2018 with an information report providing award details with respect to recommendations 1 and 2.
 
Here's the link to a report from November, 2017, on 2018-2040 Green Bus Technology Plan.

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I just went through YRT's 2019 Transit Initiatives and found it peculiar that BYD didn't offer any trial buses to YRT or YRT made the decision that it was staying with the Canadian bus manufacturers. Never came across any details on the discussion. It's just strange that the TTC is going straight to purchasing 30 electric buses rather than trial a few first. While YRT will be trialling 4 NFI and 2 Novas. I do wonder if YRT has an agreement with the TTC to have the TTC test the BYD buses and share the data.
 
I just went through YRT's 2019 Transit Initiatives and found it peculiar that BYD didn't offer any trial buses to YRT or YRT made the decision that it was staying with the Canadian bus manufacturers. Never came across any details on the discussion. It's just strange that the TTC is going straight to purchasing 30 electric buses rather than trial a few first. While YRT will be trialling 4 NFI and 2 Novas. I do wonder if YRT has an agreement with the TTC to have the TTC test the BYD buses and share the data.

The 30 they are purchasing are the trial effectively. I am most excited for Proterra to get trialled in Toronto. They are by far the best electric bus product out there. Substantially more range than say BYD. More power. Carbon fibre composite body. But suitability for a cold climate is yet to be adequately tested. Between Toronto and New York City, lots of data hopefully. I'm hoping they win out in the end. And hopefully, we'll even see a Proterra plant in Ontario someday.
 
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What I find strange is that the TTC does not seem to have a rather even distribution of bus life. I would think they would smooth out their lifecycle profile, by instituting more long term orders. Say an order every 5 years, with 160 buses per year delivered, with options for more. Assuming a 13 year life, they need 156 per year for replacements. Toss in some growth, and maybe 160 per year.
 
It's just strange that the TTC is going straight to purchasing 30 electric buses rather than trial a few first.

Why is it strange? It is the trial. These 30 buses will only account for about 1.5% of the fleet. Hopefully the size is substantial enough to allow them to get real test data, but by the same token if something happens and they all fail they won't be forced to curtail service.

What I find strange is that the TTC does not seem to have a rather even distribution of bus life. I would think they would smooth out their lifecycle profile, by instituting more long term orders. Say an order every 5 years, with 160 buses per year delivered, with options for more. Assuming a 13 year life, they need 156 per year for replacements. Toss in some growth, and maybe 160 per year.

They've been trying to do this for some time, but funding is constantly an issue. Their ideal goal is to sign a contract that would have a company deliver about 120 buses per year for 10 years.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
 
Are they only proterra? The article I read seemed to suggest it was going to be a split between three manufacturers?

In terms of handling the cold, don't they newer EV's have decently robust battery heat systems?

Third, what routes do they plan to trial such buses on?

Likely the new McNicoll Garage could be first. However, with the Mt. Dennis Garage being close to the Metrolinx Energy Storage facility, so may be a good second choice. The downtown routes should be considered good trail routes, because they are shorter and need better air quality.
 
Are they only proterra? The article I read seemed to suggest it was going to be a split between three manufacturers?

Three batches of 10 buses from three manufacturers: Proterra, New Flyer and BYD.

In terms of handling the cold, don't they newer EV's have decently robust battery heat systems?

They seem to, yes.

Third, what routes do they plan to trial such buses on?

Tentatively, it seems that each of the fleets will be allocated to a different division to start, and be allocated to a specific set of routes. I've heard Birchmount, Wilson and Mount Dennis thrown about as the three. I suspect that each fleet would cycle through each of the routes (if not each of the divisions) for a couple of board periods in order to get an accurate view of operations in identical circumstances.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
 
In terms of handling the cold, don't they newer EV's have decently robust battery heat systems?

BYD just finished their cold weather testing for this winter on their newest bus. They chose Hailar, Inner Mongolia, China to test them. Average temperatures in Jan are around -25 C.

I don't know the final results but they say it met expectations.
 
Is Winnipeg cold enough for cold weather testing?

See link.

Winnipeg Transit is now using up to four New Flyer Xcelsior® battery-electric transit buses in daily service as part of an electric bus demonstration. The project is a collaboration involving the City of Winnipeg, the Province of Manitoba, Manitoba Hydro, New Flyer Industries, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Red River College, and Sustainable Development Technology Canada.

However, Winnipeg has yet to expand beyond the four.

See link.

The question is, why isn’t Winnipeg putting more electric buses on the road?

Winnipeg may have been the first city in Canada to use battery-powered electric buses on a regular city route. But it’s now falling behind other North American jurisdictions who are snapping up the technology and replacing diesel buses with electric ones at an accelerated pace.

Electric bus technology has grown in leaps and bounds in recent years. And with the cost of battery-powered buses dropping fairly dramatically, it’s easy to see why U.S. cities like Seattle, Portland, Washington D.C. and New York City are switching to electric buses – many of which, ironically, are manufactured in Winnipeg – as a relatively easy and effective way of reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

The question is, why isn’t Winnipeg? Winnipeg Transit, along with the province, Manitoba Hydro, the federal government, Red River College, Mitsubishi and Winnipeg-based New Flyer Industries Inc. – where the buses are manufactured – launched a pilot project in 2011 to build a prototype electric bus.

They put the first electric bus into regular operation in 2014 and were the first in Canada to do so. They added three more buses to the fleet over the following two years and showed, with remarkable success, that the buses could operate effectively in Winnipeg’s sometimes harsh climate.

In fact, after more than 300,000 kilometres of data and analysis, the group found the “availability metrics” – the extent to which the buses break down or become unavailable for use – was about the same as for diesel buses.

“We’ve been able to demonstrate that the buses can perform in all weather conditions, the summer and the winter,” said Chris Stoddart, senior vice president engineering and customer service at New Flyer. “We’ve determined that there’s been no failures of any of the major electric drive components.”

Much of what does break down is the same for both electric and diesel buses since the two vehicles share many of the same parts. But since electric buses don’t have transmissions or complicated emissions control systems, electric buses often have fewer maintenance requirements.

“The good news is the batteries, the drive motor (and) the power electronics have proven to be very, very reliable,” said Stoddart.

The cost of battery-powered buses has fallen, too. Where the price tag was about $1 million in 2014, it’s now closer to $750,000 to $800,000, said Stoddart. That’s still higher than the cost of a diesel bus, which goes for about $500,000. But electric buses use about a third of the energy costs diesels do. And of course, they have zero emissions.

Battery technology has also improved markedly since 2014, giving electric buses a far longer range. Winnipeg’s current electric buses have a range of about 150 kilometres before they require a charge. Due to improved battery density, electric buses rolling out of New Flyer in 2018 have a range of about 325 kilometres and are expected to improve to 500 kilometres by 2019.


Transit should add up to 20 electric buses: report


See link.

A joint task force report between the city and province – which government has been sitting on for nearly two years – recommends adding 12 to 20 new electric buses to Winnipeg Transit’s fleet as the next step in electrifying the city’s bus service.

The report, obtained by the Winnipeg Sun, says adding 12 new electric buses to the fleet would cost taxpayers about $1.9 million more than purchasing the same number of diesel buses – including operational savings – if they were added to “peak-use” routes during rush hour periods.

The cost gap could be greater in “high-use” routes – where buses are used for longer periods of time and often switch routes – largely because of greater charging station requirements, the report said.

But as electric bus technology continues to improve, including the rapid development of en-route battery charging equipment, the price gap between diesel and electric buses continues to narrow, the task force found.

“Electric buses are essentially at the cusp of readiness,” the report says. “Their already lower operating costs (fuel and maintenance), combined with anticipated future capital cost reductions, suggests the longer-term advantage is toward electric buses.”

The report, entitled The Future is Ahead of You: Battery-Electric Bus Zero Emissions, was completed in July 2016. That was several months after the Pallister government took office and about eight months after former premier Greg Selinger and Mayor Brian Bowman announced the creation of the task force. But for reasons that remain unclear, the report was never released publicly.

The task force, made up of representatives from six stakeholder groups including the city, the province, Manitoba Hydro, New Flyer Industries and Red River College, not only confirmed electric bus technology works effectively in sometimes harsh climates like Winnipeg’s, it laid out a three-step plan on how to integrate battery-powered buses into Transit’s fleet.

One of the main findings of the report is that electric bus technology is not itself a barrier to fully electrifying Transit. The challenge is how to integrate electric buses into a transit system designed around diesel buses, the task force found.

Diesel buses can travel up to 22 hours a day and are used whenever and wherever they’re needed, with easy refueling. And they can switch seamlessly between routes at any time to help keep scheduling on time. Electric buses, which need to be recharged, aren’t as flexible. New battery-powered buses have a range of about 325 kilometers, which is expected to grow to about 500 kilometers by 2019, according to New Flyer Industries which built the four electric buses still in use in Winnipeg. But they still need to be recharged at some point. Which means there’s more planning involved than there is for diesel buses, including where and how many recharging stations are required.

“This feature is a cornerstone of existing transit system planning and operation, and must be assessed in greater detail to better understand the implications of using electric buses, with different operating characteristics,” the report says. “This important finding has not been previously identified as an issue for electric buses.”

But it’s not an insurmountable challenge, either, the task force says. What it underscores is the need to integrate electric buses into the system gradually, beginning with 12 to 20 buses , about 2% to 3% of Winnipeg Transit’s fleet, “to deploy a sufficient number of buses to confirm they can operate in the real world at a large scale.”

A second phase would add another 120 to 200 buses, about 25% to 30% of the fleet. And a third phase would see the entire fleet, or close to the entire fleet, electrified, the task force recommends.

“The biggest hurdle is not the electric technology in individual buses,” the report says. “Rather, it is the challenge of how to transform an old system, designed around diesel, to a new system of planning, operation and maintenance, based on new electric bus and charging technologies.”

Electric buses also have far less maintenance than diesel buses, in part because they don’t have transmissions or complicated emissions control systems which require frequent servicing. And because they have zero emissions, they can reduce greenhouse gases between 57 and 113 tonnes a year per bus compared to diesel.

After several years of testing four electric buses in Winnipeg, the city is well-positioned to take the next step in bus electrification, the task force concluded. Now we just need the political will.
 
Three electric bus demonstrators, one each from BYD, New Flyer, and Proterra, is making the rounds at the TTC this week. An electric bus from Nov Bus is in the GTA too—part of the Pan-Ontario Electric Bus Demo launch announcement today.
 
Looks like York Region is getting their electric buses soon, more photos here:
The future of public transit is now
April 16, 2018
The Government of Ontario announces funding for electric buses in York Region
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York Region’s Administrative Centre hosted an important funding announcement on Monday morning, with the Honourable Steven Del Duca, Minister of Economic Development and Growth present to make the announcement. The Government of Ontario will invest in a new pilot program to test electric battery-powered buses on Brampton and York Region streets.

“This funding commitment from the Government of Ontario gives York Region the green-light to move ahead with our plans to explore alternative fuel options and contribute to our goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 2051,” said York Region Chairman and CEO, Wayne Emmerson. “Partners are fundamental to the success of reducing our carbon footprint and we are excited to move this innovative project forward to encourage healthy communities and provide travellers with low-emission transportation technology to move them more efficiently across the Region"

The Government of Ontario is providing up to $13 million funds to Brampton and York Region. This investment allows York Region to move ahead with plans to purchase six, forty-foot electric buses. The buses are expected to begin service in 2019 as part of a two-year electric bus trial in the Town of Newmarket.

The Pan-Ontario Electric Bus Demonstration and Integration Trial will measure benefits associated with electric bus technology, including the reduction of operating and maintenance costs, noise pollution and idling buses.

In 2015, the transportation sector accounted for approximately one third of Ontario’s greenhouse gas emissions, more than any other sector.

The trial provides a unique opportunity and partnership between multiple levels of government, industry experts and manufacturers to further advance innovative and low-emission transportation technology.

Partners include the Canadian Urban Transit Research and Innovation Consortium (CUTRIC), which is managing the trial, as well as utility partners, the Town of Newmarket and Newmarket-Tay Power Distribution Ltd., bus manufacturers New Flyer Industries and Nova Bus, and electrical charging equipment manufacturers Siemens and ABB.

This electric bus trial demonstrates York Region’s commitment to the environment and works toward the goal of producing zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2051.
 

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