[drum118]

Feb 17 service changes will see 4,490 service hours added system wide. 33 extra buses will be put into service for AM peak and 40 for PM. This does not count off peak service.

Some routes will see some increase of service while some see almost 50% decrease of headway time.

Some real improvement with ridership falling toward standards. Even though a number of routes are seeing more buses, they still have high 50's and low 60's numbers, but the step in the right direction.

There are only a few things I have issues with. Overall, the Feb 17 service changes are going to impress riders.

Only small changes until June when 4,200 hrs are cut. September will not only see those hrs back, but additional 2,000 hrs added.

Unless noted, weekday.
192
will see increase of headway from 20' to 22'30" morning peak
early afternoon increase from 9' to 12'
early evening will increase from 9' to 10'
511, 509,310,316 remain on detour.
Schedule to resume normal service March.
300
2 new trips and goes from 15' to 7'30" 2:45-3:15am & 5:15-5:45
1 new trip and goes from 15' to 7'30" 2:45-3am & 5:15-5:45 Sat
6 buses added and goes from 10' to 6'45" 7-9am Sunday
50
1 bus added and goes from 35' to 17'30" on Sunday morning.
506
2 cars added and goes from 5'30" to 5'
113
1 bus added and goes from 24' to 20' Sunday afternoon
25
1 bus added and goes from 6'30" to 6'midday
2 buses added and goes from 6' to 5'20" Sat daytime
108
1 bus added and goes from 15' to 11'early evening
1 bus added and goes from 10' to 7'30" afternoon Sat
29
6 buses added midday and goes goes from 4'08" to 3'20"
3 buses added afternoon and service goes from 3'23" to 3'
4 buses added early evening and goes from 4' to 3'45"
3 buses added late night and goes from 9' to 6'30"
2 buses added Sat and goes from 4' to 3'45"
5 buses added Sat afternoon and goes from 3'30" to 3'
4 buses added Sunday afternoon and goes from 3'40" to 3'10"
34
3 buses added midday goes from 9' to 6'45"
2 buses added afternoon peak and goes from 5' 4'30"
3 buses added early evening and goes from 12' to 8'
1 bus added Sat and goes from 9'30" to 8'30"
32W
7 buses added morning peak and goes from 6' to 5'
39E
3 buses added and goes from 1'30" to 1'19"
39
3 buses added midday with 39D operating with 39E and goes from 3'
to 2'30"
4 buses added afternoon and goes from 2'08" to 1'55"
5 buses added early evening with 39D operating with 39E and goes
from 4'to 3'
4 buses added late evening and goes from 8' to 5'
1 bus added Sat daytime and goes from 8' to 7'30"
4 buses added Sat morning with 39D operating with 39E and goes
from 4'30" to 3'15"
2 buses added Sat afternoon and goes from 4' to 3'
2 buses added late Sat and goes from 8' to 7'
2 buses added early night Sunday and goes from 7'45" to 6'30"
36W
4 buses added midday and goes from 6' to 5'
4 buses early evening and goes from 9' to 6'45"
3 buses added late evening and goes from 11' to 8'
2 buses added daytime Sat and goes from 6' to 5'45"
2 buses added early evening Sat and goes from 12' to 9'
2 buses added early evening Sun and goes from 12' to 9'
100
2 buses added evening peak and goes from 6'40" to 5'27"
2 buses added early evening and goes from 11'15" to 9'
2 buses added late night and goes from 20' to 15'
1 buses added afternoon Sat and goes from 9' to 8'15"
2 buses added early evening Sat and goes from 11'15" to 9'
3 buses added early evening Sunday and goes from 30' to 15'
1 bus added late night and goes from 30' to 20'
38
2 buses added midday and goes from 7'30" to 6'
3 bus added afternoon peak and goes from 10' to 7'
1 bus added 7-9pm and goes from 15' to 12'
191
1 bus added AM peak and goes from 7'15" to 6'30"
extra tripper added midday
2 buses added 10am-2pm and service goes from 11' to 10'
2 buses added afternoon peak and goes from 7' to 6'
2 buses added sat afternoon and goes from 22' to 15'
37
2 buses added midday goes from 7'30" to 6'
37A
2 buses added Sat morning and goes from 12' to 8'30"
4 buses added early evening Sat and goes from 30' to 15'
2 buses added afternoon Sunday and goes from 12' to 10'
35
1 buses added midday and goes from 5'20" to 4'45"
2 buses added afternoon Sat and goes from 5' to 4'20"
3 buses added early evening Sat and goes from 6' to 5'30"
4 buses added early evening Sunday and goes from 11' to 7'
2 buses added late evening Sunday and goes from 15' to 10'
41
1 bus added AM peak and goes from 6'30" to 6'
1 bus added Sat and goes from 8' to 7'20"
1 bus added Sunday early morning and goes from 30' to 22'
2 buses added Sunday morning and goes from 14' to 11'
43
1 bus added late evening and goes from 17'30" to 15'
2 buses added afternoon Sunday and goes from 12' to 8'45"
504
2 cars added early evening and goes from 7' to 6'15"
12
1 bus added AM peak and goes from 7' to 6'15"
1 bus added PM peak and goes from 5'15" to 4'30"
45
2 buses added AM peak goes from 5'15" to 4'30" including the 45E
45E
3 buses added PM peak and goes from 8' to 7'15"
South of Belfield, PM peak goes from 8'15" to 6'40"
44
1 bus added AM peak and goes from 8' to 6'
54W
2 buses added AM peak and goes from 3.45" to 3'33"
6 buses added 10am-1:30pm and goes from 8' to 6'
3 buses added Sat morning and goes from 10' to 8'
3 buses added Sat afternoon and goes from 8' to 7'
New accessible route
54E
1 bus added midday goes from 9' to 8'
1 bus added early Sat and goes from 15' to 12'
1 bus added morning Sat and goes from 12' to 10'
2 bus added in afternoon and goes from 9' to 8'
2 buses added Sunday and goes from 15' to 12'
1 bus added Sunday afternoon and goes from 10' to 9'
Blending with the 58
52W
goes from 9' to 8'
129
2 buses added AM peak and goes from 5' to 4'30"
north of Steeles AM peak goes from 15' to 13'30
1 bus added midday and goes from 7' to 5'15"
north of Steeles midday goes from 28' to 26'15"
2 buses added PM peak and goes from 5' to 4'15"
north of Steeles PM peak increase from 15' to 17'
4 buses added early evening and goes from 8' to 5'
north of Steeles increase from 24' to 25'
1 bus added Sat morning and goes from 9' to 7'
north of Steeles goes increase from 27' to 28'
afternoon Sat goes from 6'30" to 5'45"
north of Steeles goes from 26' to 23'
1 bus added early evening Sunday and goes from 20' to 15'
north of Steeles increases from 40' to 45'
58
1 bus added AM peak and goes from 7'30" to 7'
1 bus added midday and goes from 9' to 8'
4 buses added early morning Sat and goes from 25' to 12'
4 buses added morning Sat and goes 12' to 10'
2 buses added afternoon Sat and goes from 9' to 8'
4 buses added 8-10pm Sat evening and goes from 24' to 12'
2 buses added Sun morning and goes from 15' to 12'
2 buses added afternoon Sunday and goes from 10' to 9'
Will blended with the 52
102
4 buses added PM peak goes from 6' to 5'
Temporary route change as per YRT request
57
1 bus added AM peak and goes from 6'30" to 6'
116
1 bus added midday and goes from 9' to 8'
2 buses added early evening and goes from 9' to 7'30"
1 bus added early evening Sat and goes from 12' to 10'
133
1 bus added AM peak and goes from 8'45" to 8'
2 buses added midday and goes from 15' to 10'
2 buses added PM peak and goes from 9'15" to 7'30"
1 bus added Sat morning and goes from 12' to 10'
Sat afternoon goes from 8'45" to 8'
2 buses added Sat 7-8pm and goes from 15' to 12'
1 bus added Sunday morning and goes from 15' to 12'
2 buses added Sunday afternoon and goes from 12' to 8'45"
63
1 bus added Sat morning and goes goes from 8'45" to 7'45"
2 buses added Sat afternoon and goes from 7'45" to 6'30"
501
2 cars added Sat morning and goes from 6'45" to 6'15" east of
Humber
4 cars added Sat afternoon east of Humber and goes from 5'45" to
5'
2 cars added east of Humber early evening Sat and goes from 7'15"
to 6'45"
2 cars added early evening Sunday and goes from 11' to 10' east of
Humber
512
Allocation of buses from various garages for AM peak
86
1 bus added midday and 9' to 8'
1 bus added PM peak to the 86E and goes from 11' to 9'30"
2 buses added early evening and goes from 9' to 7'30"
Last trip from the Zoo 7pm 7 days a week starting March 10.
Sunday early evening goes from 15' to 11'
Blended with 116
190
1 bus added midday and goes from 15' to 11'
1 bus added afternoon and goes from 7'30" to 6'40"
85
1 bus added AM peak and combine service west of Meadowvale goes
from 4'45" to 4'35"goes from 4'45" to 4'35"
1 bus added midday and combine service west of Meadowvale goes
from 6' to 5'30"g
2 buses added afternoon Sat and goes from 7' to 6'
1 bus added Sunday morning and combine service west of Meadowvale
goes from 7'30" to 6'40"
Better service east of Don Mill
84W
1 bus added midday and goes from 10' to 8'30"
53B
2 buses added midday and goes from 7' to 6'
early evening goes from 7' to 10'
1 bus added late evening and goes from 15' to 12'30"
1 bus added early morning Sat and goes from 18' to 15'
1 bus added Sat morning and goes from 12' to 10'
2 buses added Sat afternoon and goes from 7' to 6'
1 bus added Sunday morning and goes from 13' to 11'
3 buses added Sunday afternoon and goes from 9'7
53E
4 buses added for early evening **new** express bus operating
every 10'
combine early evening service goes from 7' to 5'
124
2 buses added (1:30-3:30) and goes from 11' to 7'30"
68
1 bus added Midday and goes from 10' to 8'45"
112
2 buses added AM peak and goes from 8' to 6'45"
165
4 buses added Midday goes from 10' to 7'30"
3 buses added PM peak goes from 9' to 7'30"
2 buses added early evening and goes from 15' to 12'
96
4 buses added midday and goes from 10' to 7'30"
2 buses added 8-10pm and goes from 15' to 12'
92
1 bus added afternoon Sat/Sun and goes from 15' to 8'
Last trip Woodbine 12am weekday 10:20pm Sat/Sun
Last trip Lake Shore 12:15am weekday 10:34pm Sat/Sun
320
11 buses added
goes from 7'30" to 7' north of York Mills.
South of York Mills goes from 7'30" to 3'30"
95
5 buses added and goes from 3' to 2'40" morning peak.
2 buses added and goes from 8'30" to 7'30" west of UT midday
3 buses added AM peak and goes from 4'20" to 4'
4 buses added early evening and goes from 10' to 7'30".
1 bus added late evening and goes from 16' to 14'
1 bus added Sunday and goes from 10' to 9'
2 buses added afternoon and goes from 8'30" to 7'20"
196
2 buses added AM peak and goes from 2'30" to 2'15"
2 buses added 10:30am-noon and goes from 2'30 to 2'15"
2 buses added noon-3pm and goes from 3' to 2'30"
1 bus added for pm peak and goes from 2'45" to 2'20"
2 buses added early evening and goes from 6' to 4'

 

[lordmandeep]

i take the 192 sometimes to kipling..

Its a super fast bus I must say...

 

[ganjavih]

Coming from Montreal, where transit is for second class citizens, I'm extremely jealous.

 

[scarberiankhatru]

"39E
3 buses added and goes from 1'30" to 1'19"
39
3 buses added midday with 39D operating with 39E and goes from 3'
to 2'30""

Uh, may I suggest bringing back the articulated buses?

 

[unimaginative2]

If they would only finish Sheppard, thousands of Finch East riders would switc to the north-south buses and then the subway (though this of course won't work with an extra transfer from streetcar to subway at Don Mills). Almost all the high-density on Finch East is clustered at the major intersections.

If it still stays this busy, it would seem to be a prime candidate for streetcar conversion or maybe an express busway in the hydro corridor.

 

[ShonTron]

165
4 buses added Midday goes from 10' to 7'30"
3 buses added PM peak goes from 9' to 7'30"
2 buses added early evening and goes from 15' to 12'
96
4 buses added midday and goes from 10' to 7'30"
2 buses added 8-10pm and goes from 15' to 12'

So that's midday service of 3'45" on Wilson itself weekdays. The problem with the 96/165 isn't midday or weekday evening service so much, it's the weekend service where buses are almost always crowded or overcrowded eastbound between 10AM and 3PM, and westbound from 12PM to 7PM, even with closed doors, Saturday and Sunday.

Currently, midday/early evening service on Wilson on Saturday is every 6 minutes, but part of the problem is that buses enter service from York Mills Station weekends, so "midday" service eastbound starts an hour later than it should. Sundays, service is every 8 minutes midday only, otherwise every 10-15 minutes.

Should go to 5 minutes at least Saturdays from 10AM - 9PM, 6 or 7 minutes Sunday from 11AM - 7PM.

Also, the loads are based on "Lift" buses, but the RTS buses don't run weekends, they're all lower capacity Orion VIIs.

Just one of many examples of poor TTC service management.

 

[drum118]

As I noted, TTC is moving toward lower ridership numbers on buses with this change. Cannot happen overnight as much as we want too.

"Lift" buses will see standard 36 for off peak. Peak was 57 and will be lower to 49, down from the current 59 for 165.

This is the first wave with the 2nd in Sept and spreading the increase of service across the system, not just to one route 100%

As for artic's, bring them on as they are long over due. They will be showing up within the next 2 years. TTC is upgrading a garage lifts system for artic's buses now. Doing this at great cost is a clear messages that artic's are coming.

If the government is willing to pickup 100% of the cost of building the Shepperd subway line from Downsview to Marham Rd including rolling stock and operation cost, added it as an extra to the Move2020. Otherwise, it's an LRT. I do support the conversion of the existing subway to LRT.

I see the Sheppard subway not going west to Weston Rd, but to the airport and Pickering. This opens up a huge market for riders to the airport as well a faster way from the north and east.

My fear for services increase is we are going to run out of RSG buses and no more are on order. We are somewhere around 200 buses short now compare to the 80's and we are very close to that max number of riders then. 2007 saw 460 million riders up 6 million plan for.

 

[ShonTron]

As I noted, TTC is moving toward lower ridership numbers on buses with this change. Cannot happen overnight as much as we want too.

My argument is that the resouces were not allocated as well as they should be. Wilson would do just fine until September without the midday service increase if weekends were improved.

 

[doady]

78 second headways just for the 39E? Is that a typo? I mean, 78 seconds is already crazy for a route overall, but 78 seconds for just one branch of a route???

 

[Edward Skira]

Noticed they put a stop on Church in front of Spire for the 508.

 

[drum118]

78 second headways just for the 39E? Is that a typo? I mean, 78 seconds is already crazy for a route overall, but 78 seconds for just one branch of a route???

39E was all routes, not just the 39 express

As a note, it saids that lift buses will see 53 riders below 57 for peak.

It would be interesting to see where TTC use point load for buses on 39 to come up with numbers of riders in the first place outside of Finch station.

 

[drum118]

My argument is that the resouces were not allocated as well as they should be. Wilson would do just fine until September without the midday service increase if weekends were improved.

Its a yes and no answers depending who you ask. To you it maybe no, but to the rider it yes. I have issues with some of these changes and what you are saying is one of them. Since I don't how each garage operates, as well what crews are like, it hard for me yes or no.

It also depends on the drivers TTC has for this area.

Unless I have the master sign up list system wide in front of me, I cannot say there are X buses here or there to put on k route at Y time. I can say Z buses are needed at P headway based on data counts. Does garage 1 have the buses to do this or do I go to 2 for them? It could be a combination of both.

Not always a simple answers and I not defending TTC. I need more data.

Now what make you sure TTC could do what you say?

 

[nfitz]

Coming from Montreal, where transit is for second class citizens, I'm extremely jealous.

Montreal announced a similiar service increase: http://www.stm.info/English/info/moreoften.htm costing $300 million.

It's hard to tell how much service increase there will be on the buses, but the across the board frequency increase on the Metro is impressive.

 

[scarberiankhatru]

Finch East doesn't just need articulated buses...it needs the DRL! If memory serves me correctly, Seneca is the biggest trip generator along Finch (and the 4th largest post-secondary institution in the city), so a Don Mills line would both serve Seneca and take thousands of people downtown. Finch East is definitely a route where thousands upon thousands of riders can and should be shifted to other transit routes/modes. Frequency approaching one minute is absurd.

 

[ganjavih]

Montreal announced a similiar service increase: http://www.stm.info/English/info/moreoften.htm costing $300 million.

It's hard to tell how much service increase there will be on the buses, but the across the board frequency increase on the Metro is impressive.

Thanks for the note, I actually didn't know about that. Still a long to go but a small step in the right direction, I guess.