That would certainly make sense. Might as well put in a dedicated ROW where they can, especially if it's a choke point on the route. There are very few places where this can actually be done in downtown.
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That would certainly make sense. Might as well put in a dedicated ROW where they can, especially if it's a choke point on the route. There are very few places where this can actually be done in downtown.
BMO
Senior Member
Actually if I recall correctly, it would be from Queen till Lakeshore.
nfitz
Superstar
That would make sense looking at the street maps on Toronto's website. Looks like the street widens to 30 metres south of Queen. Shame there weren't more streets like that in Toronto.
The Bathurst route is only about 5 km long. 1.5 has dedicated ROW now, and extending it to Queen would make it about 2.7 km. Not insignificant!
the lemur
Senior Member
Another shot of the rail spur at Hillcrest for delivery of the new LRVs. Anyone care to explain the difference in elevation? The left side is towards the rail line, the main building of the complex is over to the right and in the background.
Voltz
Senior Member
The streetcars come delivered on railway cars, so they obviously need the ramp to drive the streetcars off the railway cars.
nfitz
Superstar
I'd assume they back in the freight car on the lower track to the end - and then offload the LRV directly onto the higher track. I'd assume the track on the left is standard gauge, and the one on the right is TTC gauge.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
The tracks on the right are probably on an incline, so the new LFLRVs will just roll down. They'll probably use a CLRV to give it a pull, toll it around, and then brake when needed. Just as they do now with a disabled streetcar, using a tow bar.
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the lemur
Senior Member
That makes a lot of sense, thanks. I hadn't thought about the offloading scenario - I'll see what the gauges are like next time I'm around there.
nfitz
Superstar
For 1.44 metres versus 1.50 metres? Better bring your tape measure!
chriskayTO
Active Member
Out of curiosity, does anyone know why they opted for rail transport for the new LRVs vs truck transport for the new TR subway trains? Is it purely because of rail availability direct to Hillcrest but not to Wilson yard?
nfitz
Superstar
I don't know, but it could be a function of the size/weight. The TR cars are 23-metres long and weigh about 34 tonnes. The new LRVs are 30-metres long and weigh about 48.2 tonnes. I know some shipping rules changes after you exceed a 25-metre length - though I'd thought the TR's would have exceeded that one you count the cab.
If they really wanted to, they could have reactivated the Greenwood spur and shipped the TRs in that way.
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the lemur
Senior Member
Hmm, I didn't realize they were so close!
joeclark
New Member
A complete myth.
Contra
Senior Member
Rather pessimistic.
Images can be and will be the one international language of the world until the end of time. That's just instincts and simple facts that a graphic can carry a determined message.
jamincan
Active Member
Except that there are certain cultural conventions that get in the way of universal understanding. Emergency exits are normally signed in red in N. America for example (stupid btw), and green pretty much everywhere else.