k10ery
Senior Member
Would have been nice to see Cherry there, just so we all remember - even Doug and Rob - that that's happening...
You could also remind Rob and Doug that they voted for it, I guess.
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Would have been nice to see Cherry there, just so we all remember - even Doug and Rob - that that's happening...
You could also remind Rob and Doug that they voted for it, I guess.
They did? We're they on crack? They must have forgotten that people want subways folks… subways, subways. They don’t want these damn streetcars clogging up our city!
TTC boss suggests banning cars from downtown King St. at rush hours
Read More: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/tra...cars_from_downtown_king_st_at_rush_hours.html
It’s time to look at taking the cars off downtown King St. — and maybe Queen as well — at least in the morning rush, says the head of the TTC.
- Councillor Karen Stintz, who chairs the TTC board, will move a motion there Monday asking staff to assess the feasibility of trying a transit corridor on King as a pilot during the 2015 Pan Am Games. The time has come for radical solutions if those cars are going to move unimpeded through the downtown, Byford said. The TTC would have to work with the city to assess the impact on traffic and business. “We need to get serious about enabling surface transit to move freely at the busiest times, in addition to introducing larger vehicles,” he said.
- “If you really want to crack the age-old problem of streetcars running in mixed traffic, coming up against people trying to do left turns or other blockages, is it not time to revisit — just as a study — the political and public appetite for a 7 a.m. until 9 a.m. transit-only-in-one-direction road, and displace the traffic elsewhere,” said Byford. “We’ve got to at least reopen that debate,” he said, adding that some city councillors have already expressed interest.
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Nice to see this officially proposed. One step closer to the dream of a pedestrian mall on Queen.
Wouldn't you also have to ban streetcars to have a pedestrian mall?
Are there any of the towers that have underground parking that lets out directly onto either King or Queen?
TTC boss suggests banning cars from downtown King St. at rush hours
Read More: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/tra...cars_from_downtown_king_st_at_rush_hours.html
It’s time to look at taking the cars off downtown King St. — and maybe Queen as well — at least in the morning rush, says the head of the TTC.
- Councillor Karen Stintz, who chairs the TTC board, will move a motion there Monday asking staff to assess the feasibility of trying a transit corridor on King as a pilot during the 2015 Pan Am Games. The time has come for radical solutions if those cars are going to move unimpeded through the downtown, Byford said. The TTC would have to work with the city to assess the impact on traffic and business. “We need to get serious about enabling surface transit to move freely at the busiest times, in addition to introducing larger vehicles,†he said.
- “If you really want to crack the age-old problem of streetcars running in mixed traffic, coming up against people trying to do left turns or other blockages, is it not time to revisit — just as a study — the political and public appetite for a 7 a.m. until 9 a.m. transit-only-in-one-direction road, and displace the traffic elsewhere,†said Byford. “We’ve got to at least reopen that debate,†he said, adding that some city councillors have already expressed interest.
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This is too radical to be accepted. A better and more reasonable solution is to turn King and Queen into 1 way streets (downtown core). King will probably go West (Adelaide East) and Queen goes East (Richmond West).
This way, the streets can be properly shared. Of the 4 lanes, 1 will be pedestrian and curb bump platforms, 1 will be for a ROW streetcar lane, and 2 lanes for cars. Partner this up with slight reduction in the no. of stops, and better priority lights, and we have a nice cheap(er) solution to traffic congestion and faster public transit.
It’s time to look at taking the cars off downtown King St. — and maybe Queen as well — at least in the morning rush, says the head of the TTC.
Proof-of-payment (POP) approach required due to enclosed Operator cab - added benefit of permitting all door loading
Phase 1: “Transition”
Existing fare media + PRESTO cards* + Cash
Phase 2: “Full PRESTO”
PRESTO cards* + Cash
* Note: The equivalent of existing TTC fare products (passes; tokens; tickets) will be available on the PRESTO card
Single-Ride Vending Machine (SRVM)
SRVM required to issue POP receipt (2 per car & up to 75 at busiest stops)
SRVM’s would:
- Accept cash (coins only; no change)
- Accept credit/debit
- Accept tokens (Transition only)
- Issue paper receipt (Transition only)
- Issue limited use media (Full PRESTO)
- Support PRESTO card (one PRESTO card reader at each door)
SRVM’s cannot accept tickets
For transition, need ticket validator (2 per car)
FARE COLLECTION - CUSTOMER ACTIONS
TRANSITION:
Existing Fare Media + PRESTO + CashFULL PRESTO:
PRESTO Card + CashPasses Keep Pass as POP receipt ** Transfers Keep Transfer as POP receipt ** Adult (tokens) Get POP receipt from SRVM ** Concession tickets Insert ticket into validator - Keep ticket as POP receipt ** Cash Get POP receipt from SRVM Get POP receipt from SRVM PRESTO Card “Tap” card on SRVM- get POP receipt “Tap” card on reader at door % of First-Boarding Customers Needing Receipt ≈ 40% ≈ 10%
** Fare product available on PRESTO card
Perhaps a car free King St. would faster prompt the building of a DRL so the cars can come back.