T3G
Senior Member
How about: no.
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agree to disagree, we don't take pride in our public institutions like smaller countries so punishment is the only effective deterrentHow about: no.
Maybe not as far as caning but fines don't work if we never enforce them OR if the people who get them just don't pay.It is truly exasperating that I now have to take a stance from the other side of the debate, considering I've spent the last 3 days arguing on Slovak transit forums that people should be fined by fare inspectors for vandalizing transit vehicles (I don't know why this was a controversial stance), but there is a vast, vast difference between financially penalizing someone and caning them.
Financial penalties? Yes, and severe ones at that. But caning someone would be a purely punitive, spiteful action that has no place in a liberal democracy.
Perhaps we are slowly moving towards a Line 2 shutdown. OL and Line 5 along with all the downtown streetcar lines can fill in its shoes.Unfortunate the budget didn't include Line 2 news.
Toronto gets refugee funding but no sign of urgently needed cash to buy new subway cars
The mayor applauded funds to house refugees and other items in the federal budget, but was clearly disappointed that the Trudeau government left out her top request.www.thestar.com
Perhaps we can find a way to get subway trains to last 50 to 60 years ... which will surely happen if there's no funding.Perhaps we are slowly moving towards a Line 2 shutdown. OL and Line 5 along with all the downtown streetcar lines can fill in its shoes.
There will be no line 2 shutdown, there will be no need for the line 2 shutdown, and I surely would appreciate it if we could have a discussion about the natural necessity of replacing life expired rolling stock without overdramatic hyperbole about having to shut the line down.Perhaps we are slowly moving towards a Line 2 shutdown. OL and Line 5 along with all the downtown streetcar lines can fill in its shoes.
Unfortunate the budget didn't include Line 2 news.
Toronto gets refugee funding but no sign of urgently needed cash to buy new subway cars
The mayor applauded funds to house refugees and other items in the federal budget, but was clearly disappointed that the Trudeau government left out her top request.www.thestar.com
Then the TTC will need new, more rigorous design standards for their track and structures to handle the heavier equipment. Plus a plan (and budget) with which to replace all of the existing with the new.Perhaps we can find a way to get subway trains to last 50 to 60 years ... which will surely happen if there's no funding.