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Have seen them on a bunch of cars now, and I find the destination displays very ugly from the inside, giving no clue as to its purpose if you weren't paying attention when boarding. It's like the windows needed to be braced or something.
 
Of course the logical thing Byford will do is deny the claims in order to calm the flames. I still have a feeling he'll be leaving within the next year or two, maybe for Australia, maybe for elsewhere.

As for NovaBus, they should just focus on doing a dramatic re-design of their LFS bus. That vehicle is a mess both inside and out.
 
(Transit) Geeking out on the whiteboard...

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The fire at St. Clair & Yonge reminded me on how streetcars and fires used to be handled. Today, streetcars are either rerouted or replaced by buses. Used to be that if the streetcars weren't detoured, they slowly just past through the fire scene. Due to health concerns today, they no longer continue through. To get streetcars through a fire scene way back when, they used hose jumpers or bridges.

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In some cases, they just sent the hoses over the trolley wires.
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Wonder if the hose jumpers or bridges would return with Transit City?
 
Interesting. While digging on another subject the last few days, I came across an "all electric bus" being developed that (gist) "will be cheaper to buy, run and service" than any other present vehicles. It could have been at the APTA website. It was of note due to the massive diesel particulate level imbroglio now unfolding, mostly in Europe, and London (and other European capitals) having smog levels at times *surpassing* those of Chinese cities.

I'll see if I can retrace my urls to find it, should have bookmarked it, it is the future, and when purchase price is lower than 'normal' vehicles, you know the threshold has been reached. Battery storage is still the holy grail to breach (energy density) and at an affordable price and lightweight. Seeing bus companies merging even further is good news, as critical mass is important to push the technology forward.

Edit to Add: Not the exact article I mention above, but tells the same story:
Electric buses are now cheaper than diesel/CNG and could dominate the market within 10 years, says Proterra CEO
Fred Lambert- Feb. 13th 2017 3:20 pm ET @FredericLambert

Transit vehicles today are mostly powered by gasoline, diesel, and CNG, while batteries only represent about 1% of the market. It is currently a small part of the industry, but it’s also the fastest growing fuel source in the sector and it’s starting to become highly competitive.
https://twitter.com/FredericLambert
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Electric bus maker Proterra is ramping up production and currently claims to be cheaper than diesel and CNG. It leads CEO Ryan Popple to make a bold prediction that battery-powered buses will dominate the transit bus market within 10 years.
https://twitter.com/FredericLambert
https://twitter.com/FredericLambert
More specifically, he says that the majority of new bus sales will be electric by 2025 and all new bus sales to transit agencies will be electric by 2030.
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Proterra has so far only delivered a few hundred all-electric buses, but they have been announcing several major deals lately, like 73 buses from King County’s Metro Transit, that seem to indicate there’s a shift in the transit industry.
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Some transit agencies are making commitments to transition their entire fleets to electric propulsion and companies like BYD, Proterra, and others, are fighting over the contracts.
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Earlier this year, Proterra managed to secure a large $140 million round of financing and they are using the money to ramp up production in order to complete those new contracts.
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The company recently hired Tesla’s former Vice President of Manufacturing to lead a production expansion at their facility in Greenville, South Carolina, and their new factory in Los Angeles County in order to satisfy the increasing demand.
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Popple is also a former Tesla executive. He was convinced to work in the electrification of transport as a mean to reduce America’s dependence on petrol from the Middle East. It’s something that as a former US Army officer, like several other early employees at Tesla, came to him after witnessing first-hand the impact of the US presence in the region. For example, Tesla’s longtime Vice-President of Business Development, Diarmuid O’Connell, has a similar story for his reason behind joining Tesla.
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In a recent podcast interview with Green Tech Media, Popple explained his path from the army to Tesla and finally to Proterra. It’s an interesting interview in which he explains his prediction for the electrification of the transit industry.
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Here’s the interview:
https://electrek.co/2017/02/13/electric-buses-proterra-ceo/
Apologies for the format above, it's tedious navigating this forum software sometimes...
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At the next TTC meeting (February 21, 2017), Commissioner Joe Mihevc will be presenting a request (see link) for Electric Bus Charging.

CUTA has requested support for a national effort to establish electric bus charging stations. A national strategy could help reduce procurement costs, improve performance and increase adoption rates.

Given that the TTC will be pursuing bus purchases in the years to come, my request is for a report on the transit propulsion technologies that the TTC is considering and where electric energy sources might fit in.

Attached you will find the CUTA-recommended station. At this point I am not urging that the TTC and Council adopt it. I am recommending thoughtful study that could be the basis of a motion.

MOTION TO PURSUE PAN-CANADIAN HARMONIZATION OF ELECTRIC BUS CHARGING TECHNOLOGY, TO REDUCE PROCUREMENT COSTS, IMPROVE PERFORMANCE AND INCREASE ADOPTION RATES OF ELECTRIC-BUS
TECHNOLOGY

Whereas the City of <name> and the Province of <name> have agreed to pursue green procurement policies for <transit system name> operations;

Whereas a consensus is forming across Canada on the need to reduce GHG emissions through new technologies;

Whereas Greenhouse gas emissions from the transportation sector primarily come from burning fossil fuel for buses cars and trucks as over 90 percent of the fuel used for transportation is petroleum based, which includes gasoline and diesel;

Whereas Canadian transit manufacturers are currently researching, developing and deploying new electric transit technologies that will offer significant emissions reductions;

Whereas costs for these new technologies are still out of reach for many Canadian municipalities, due in part to their slow rate of adoption across Canada;

Whereas a leading factor in the slow adoption of electric transit technologies is the lack of technological harmonization across municipalities and between transit manufacturers;

It is proposed by

Seconded by

That Council declare that it will pursue a coherent and sustained procurement policy with regards to electric bus charging technologies that is harmonized with other municipalities across Canada;

That Council request other municipalities join in this harmonization, with the goal of more quickly commercializing electric transit technologies, increasing their adoption and reducing urban GHG emissions in the transportation sector;

That Council urge transit manufacturers to create a Canadian standard for electric bus manufacturing, including but not limited to charging infrastructure.
 
The fire at St. Clair & Yonge reminded me on how streetcars and fires used to be handled.

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Wonder if the hose jumpers or bridges would return with Transit City?

Right. Because solutions from 120 years ago will go over really well with the public. Sheesh.

Should we replace streetcars with horse-and-buggies while we're at it?
 
For the next TTC meeting on February 21, 2017, at this link:

The Queensway Track Rehabilitation

The purpose of this report is to obtain authorization for the award of a contract for The Queensway Track Rehabilitation to Sanscon Construction Ltd.

The work for this contract includes rehabilitation of streetcar tracks on The Queensway from Parkside to Humber Loop.

Recommendations

It is recommended the Board authorize:
1. Acceptance of the bid submitted by Sanscon Construction Ltd. and award of a contract in the amount of $8,939,558.01 (including applicable taxes) for the above stated contract on the basis of the lowest compliant total bid price.

Financial Impact


Sufficient funds are included in the proposed 2017-2026 Capital Budget under 1.2 Surface Track as approved by the Board on November 21, 2016 and will be considered by City Council on February 15 and 16, 2017.

The Chief Financial & Administration Officer has reviewed this report and agrees with the financial impact information.

Issue Background

The scope of the project is end of life cycle replacement of the ballasted tracks with a concrete embedded track structure accompanied with improved drainage to facilitate safer and more efficient streetcar operation along the approximately 2.5 km stretch between Parkside and Humber Loop as shown in Appendix A.

The embedded track (Retrac) system allows for tighter initial construction tolerances and retains the integrity of the track geometry with greatly reduced frequency of maintenance over increased life of 25 years compared to 15 years for the current ballast track.

The rehabilitation of the streetcar right of way on The Queensway will ensure safe, reliable, and efficient streetcar service at a lower operating and total life cycle cost.

The work is scheduled to begin in April, and is estimated to be completed by December,2017.

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Council just voted down 18-26 Fragedakis motion to fund TTC signal track and traction power reliability program.

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Automatic train control...

Right now, someone sits in a seat controlling the subways and streetcars, and the future LRT. Will there ever be a point that there is no one in that seat?
 
Automatic train control...

Right now, someone sits in a seat controlling the subways and streetcars, and the future LRT. Will there ever be a point that there is no one in that seat?

ATC is included with the new signal system. This vote had nothing to do with that. Unless they changed it (again), it was to set up a secondary (and I believe also tertiary) control centre to monitor and dispatch the subway.

And no, there will never be a point at which there is no one on a train. The system - in the sense of the trains, tunnels, track, etc. - was simply never designed for that, and it would take far too much money to retrofit.

Dan
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