[Amare]

As far as I can tell the change was very minor, instead of going on lakeshore>thirtheenth, its going on kipling>birmingham>twelfth (see black sketch vs. existing route in red). This appears to be enabled by a new extension of Twelfth up to Birmingham as part of adjacent development? If anything, the 110C won't need to use the loop to turnaround anymore given that it is heading north on the other side of the street past it.

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From what i'm aware of, the whole thing with the 110C being extended to use Kipling Loop was so it would have a proper place to layover and due to some sort of resident concern of buses laying over on 12th St.

So now with this latest change, I dont get where buses would be laying over if they're no longer going to use Kipling Loop. I'm assuming they will still use Kipling Loop because if not, there's no other place for buses to have a "proper layover" (as per the TTC's logic) because they'd run into the exact same thing the TTC was apparently trying to avoid.

So all they're doing with this is just extending bus run times, using the same number of buses which is going to lead to even worse service.

 

[smallspy]

-34 Eglinton East: The lack of additional service here is idiotic. The TTC decides to add services temporarily to various routes, but yet Eglinton remains an overloaded mess at various points in the day? Pretty comical stuff if you ask me.

When is it overloaded? I take it at rush hour every day, and with the exception of the odd bus heading to Yonge in the mornings that is running in a gap, the buses are busy but never uncomfortably so.

Now, the Warden bus, on the other hand....

Dan

 

[Coolibop]

@Coolibop One benefit of train tracking is that you can get an alert on your phone that your stop is coming up. Through headphones or as a popup.

I'm not sure this is a problem they were looking to solve.

Yeah, it might be hard to model that much traffic.

I did not suggest to model traffic and end up with better predictions.

The apps do not deviate much from the route once selected - In my example above, it could have suggested a walk to the next transfer with plenty of time to spare.

Coincidentally, today, due to a bus arriving early for transfer, I had a suggestion to take a bus for 45 minutes around town versus a 10 minute walk all because it was fixated on transferring at a particular location midway through a trip. Dynamic re-routing is where these apps can get bigger bang for the buck from and end user experience: getting you where you want faster. I've noticed the Transit app does suggest alternate routes at a specific stop if a transfer is missed/early, but it omits the obvious sometimes.

 

[chrisw]

You had to look out the window for signs on the platform, listen for station announcements, or tilt your neck 90° to read one of those digital screens. How perfectly quaint!

2. Ta-da! We’ll show your predicted location on the map, count down the stations, and update your ETA

Yes. Even without knowing your GPS coordinates.

@Coolibop It's one of the problems they're trying to solve.

It might be computationally expensive to do the dynamic searching. For non-royale users they even limit the number of options you see when searching for a route. To do a reroute you need to repoll yourself to look at alternate route options.

 

[Amare]

When is it overloaded? I take it at rush hour every day, and with the exception of the odd bus heading to Yonge in the mornings that is running in a gap, the buses are busy but never uncomfortably so.

Now, the Warden bus, on the other hand....

Dan

Very interesting, I usually take that bus fairly frequently from Eglinton Station heading eastbound from Yonge and have experienced crush load (mainly from students heading to school) which eases up after Bayview. Afternoon peak i've experienced the same beginning at Brentcliffe heading westbound.

Theoretically they could boost the 56B frequency to address the issue, the 34 is the route the came to mind easy since the frequency gets screwed up quite a bit from my experience.

That good old Warden bus hasnt changed at all huh? I used it fairly frequently back 6-7 years ago, that thing was a mess along with 17 Birchmount which was just as bad or if not worse from my experience.

 

[Richard White]

Interesting tidbit..

The shops at Warden Station are closing at the end of November 2024. I spoke with one of the little coffee shops today who confirmed it.

No word on when the bus bays as we know them today will close.

 

[drum118]

Interesting tidbit..

The shops at Warden Station are closing at the end of November 2024. I spoke with one of the little coffee shops today who confirmed it.

No word on when the bus bays as we know them today will close.

It will close once the new temporary bus bays are ready for service from what I saw last week.

With the parking lot closing on the 19th, I expect it will be use for the bus bay.

 

[Richard White]

It will close once the new temporary bus bays are ready for service from what I saw last week.

With the parking lot closing on the 19th, I expect it will be use for the bus bay.

The plan is to have a temporary terminal in the south lot.

That is nowhere near ready yet.

 

[smallspy]

No word on when the bus bays as we know them today will close.

January 4th is the current working date.

Dan

 

[Richard White]

January 4th is the current working date.

Dan

That makes sense.

Thank you Dan!

 

[Mind_the_gap]

I need to say this, the Leslie bus divide at Sheppard (51A/151) is so misinformed. Constituents were complaining to Shelley Carroll about the delays caused to the 51 by Line 5 construction on Eglinton.

That's over.

Their complaint was that all they wanted to do was access Line 4. This is very shortsighted however, considering that the opening of Line 5 will significantly change travel patterns, and this linear transfer will eventually become resented by the very same people.

The bald headed (Service Planning) gentleman in a suit at the Leslie Station Open House said to me that passengers counts show many people being inconvenienced travelling from south of York Mills to north of Sheppard. [Many people transfer at Lawrence.]

It's an infrequent bus, and I highly doubt 51As and 151s will hold for transferring passengers. The most congested segment on Leslie is between Esther Shiner and York Mills, the joint section which will cause the 151 to be just as unreliable as the 51A. I tried to fight it...

As a ~20 year constituent, the 51A should continue north to loop around Ravel (Finch), compensating for the TTC's reluctance to extend the 169A to Leslie. The 151 shouldn't go south of the 401 ever - it should serve the new towers in the former Canadian Tire Distribution Centre lands between Leslie and Bessarion (Burbank).

 

[T3G]

January 4th is the current working date.

Dan

There is a post on the "I'm from SCARBOROUGH!" FB page claiming it will be at the end of the month. Fair to dismiss that as being fake news?

 

[nfitz]

Fair to dismiss that as being fake news?

Perhaps old news would be a kinder assumption?

 

[drum118]

Nov 8
This sure doesn't look like it will open this month

 

[Johnny Au]

There is a post on the "I'm from SCARBOROUGH!" FB page claiming it will be at the end of the month. Fair to dismiss that as being fake news?

What do you expect from a website that is home to conspiracy theories such as the 2020 “stolen election” and COVID-19 conspiracies?

Hence the name Fakebook.