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We are already in a "trap". It's a treadmill of subsidizing new greenfield developments to make up for shrinking tax base and aging infrastructure in older greenfield developments. Right now almost every CTrain station in this city is surrounded by parking lots and underutilized land. 46 public schools are at lower than 70% capacity and dozens are at risk of closure. We need to change the rules of the game so that it is more economical to build higher densities around existing infrastructure and services than constantly expanding outward.

If the rules haven't changed up to this point...why would one have any have any faith that the rules will magically change after greenfield development is restricted?

In fact there are many examples of cities/municipalities in Canada where the urban boundary gets capped and then the adequate rule changes do not take place and what happens....supply gets restricted and prices escalate.
 
There is a new development permit for one of the last vacant lots on 25 Ave SW (just east of 4 St)..... 39 residential units. I believe someone posted a rendering on this a while ago. Same architect, Manu Chugh, as before.
 
If the rules haven't changed up to this point...why would one have any have any faith that the rules will magically change after greenfield development is restricted?

In fact there are many examples of cities/municipalities in Canada where the urban boundary gets capped and then the adequate rule changes do not take place and what happens....supply gets restricted and prices escalate.
Politics is now considered "magic"? Here I was thinking elected representatives have the power to make changes to policy and laws.

If the example of a capped urban boundary you're thinking of is the GTA's "Greenbelt", then it actually proves the opposite. The GTA is an example of what happens when unplanned sprawl is allowed to occur unchecked for decades. Mississauga is actually a textbook example of a municipality that used greenfield development fees to balance its budget until it simply ran out of greenfields and is now facing a major crisis.

The Greenbelt itself exists as a desperate attempt to rescue the last bits of farmland, wetlands, and watershed in Southern Ontario from being paved over in asphalt. Even if the Greenbelt did drive up housing costs, it would be a necessary trade off for preventing the complete eradication of an ecosystem.
 
Politics is now considered "magic"? Here I was thinking elected representatives have the power to make changes to policy and laws.

If the example of a capped urban boundary you're thinking of is the GTA's "Greenbelt", then it actually proves the opposite. The GTA is an example of what happens when unplanned sprawl is allowed to occur unchecked for decades. Mississauga is actually a textbook example of a municipality that used greenfield development fees to balance its budget until it simply ran out of greenfields and is now facing a major crisis.

The Greenbelt itself exists as a desperate attempt to rescue the last bits of farmland, wetlands, and watershed in Southern Ontario from being paved over in asphalt. Even if the Greenbelt did drive up housing costs, it would be a necessary trade off for preventing the complete eradication of an ecosystem.
The greenbelt certainly has a distortionary negative impact on the the GTA housing market that reduces supply by artificially limiting the highest and best use of the lands impacted, thereby driving up costs. It also fuels further sprawl in outlying communities generating additional commuting that would not occur otherwise - negating any positive environmental impact. It's a great example of a well-meaning policy that completely misses the mark due to a widespread lack of economic education in our society.
 
Politics is now considered "magic"? Here I was thinking elected representatives have the power to make changes to policy and laws.

If the example of a capped urban boundary you're thinking of is the GTA's "Greenbelt", then it actually proves the opposite. The GTA is an example of what happens when unplanned sprawl is allowed to occur unchecked for decades. Mississauga is actually a textbook example of a municipality that used greenfield development fees to balance its budget until it simply ran out of greenfields and is now facing a major crisis.

The Greenbelt itself exists as a desperate attempt to rescue the last bits of farmland, wetlands, and watershed in Southern Ontario from being paved over in asphalt. Even if the Greenbelt did drive up housing costs, it would be a necessary trade off for preventing the complete eradication of an ecosystem.

First, the GTA greenbelt is a bit of a joke. It expanded significantly beyond the "special ecosystems" it's supposedly meant to protect. Not to mention Hamilton is literally already built on the Niagara Escarpment.

Second, how does it prove the opposite of my point? They capped the urban boundary and haven't done the adequate upzoning(and it's a total fight to do so) and now the cost of housing is a total disaster. That was my point.

Also the fact the you admit that high housing costs are necessary sacrifice to cap urban boundaries means we will just never agree on this.
 
I am generally in favor of building new greenfield developments - affordable housing is one of Calgary's key advantages after all - but there's still a lot wrong with the way Calgary does suburban greenfield.
There's nothing wrong with greenfield development as long as new communities are being designed with densities and street layouts to be efficiently serviced by utilities, transit, and other city services (which they largely are).
Have you tried riding transit in the furthest suburbs? It sucks, and even though in theory our neighborhoods layouts are getting better at supporting transit, in practice our transit gets worse the further we sprawl. We need to change the way we design our neighborhoods so that we can serve them entirely with fast, frequent, ridership-focused routes and not crappy coverage routes.

While we pat ourselves on the back for making marginal improvements to biking and transit networks in new suburbs, I'm pretty sure the modeshare of cars in new suburbs is higher than anywhere. We need to dramatically change the way we plan neighborhoods to turn this around. Even if the style of housing that people buy stays constant, decreasing our reliance on cars and increasing our use of bikes and transit could dramatically increase density and sustainability while decreasing costs for the city.
 
I also don't like the argument that "the market trends show X, therefore we must do X". The entire purpose of a government is to plan things out smartly so that we don't end up making bad decisions. Let's remember why we want inner city growth in the first place - our city's own estimates show that meeting our growth boundary goals will save us $16 Billion in capital costs and $390 Million/year in operating costs. But it's up to the city to price that into the free market, and we're failing badly.

Beyond zoning, I think we should rethink how our taxes work. Right now, because we primarily tax improvements, our tax system literally punishes people who improve their land and use it more efficiently, while rewarding decay, stagnation, and speculation. This is the opposite of how it should be. In a way, our tax system is actually creating a major market distortion, since we are not accounting for the negative externalities that come from inefficient land usage.

Various cities in Pennsylvania have adopted Land Value Taxes that have promoted development, destroyed blight, and revitalized communities. If we're serious about encouraging more efficient land use, we should look at decreasing the tax on improvements and increasing the tax on land - this could have a huge impact on market conditions and make inner city living more affordable for more people.
 
There's also the issue of suburbia being subsidised by the inner city neighborhoods because suburban areas aren't nearly as profitable.

While videos like this are fun to watch, be careful of painting all suburbs with the same brush. All of the new communities proposed in Calgary are designed in a way to conform with our MDP policies, and the more recent area structure plans in which they are located. Administration's review of the proposed business cases give a good financial analysis of their long term costs to The City. The 5 recommended yes do not require any new capital expenditures, and actually show them becoming revenue positive for The City in pretty short order. See this document:
 
This is my problem with adding new communities:


Things have to change eventually.
One thing to note about any suburban community in Calgary built in the last 4 years or so. Almost all lots are zoned to a minimum of R-G (similar to RC-G in the inner city). This means that the developer, and any future owners, can build up to 4 units (depending on lot size) plus secondary suites, without a land use change. So we are not really building R-1 neighbourhoods any more.

My issue with many of the new communities is that the City is still asking for wide, hostile arterial roads with up to 8 lanes of traffic, which really prevent these communities from being walkable to adjoining neighbourhoods.
 
Restricting greenfield development is an incredibly bad idea.

1. Ample greenfield development is why Calgary is cheaper than Toronto and Vancouver.

2. Upzoning/density is NOT contingent on banning greenfield development. It's a false dilemma.

3. New greenfield developments today are not like they were in the 1980's. You can build relatively dense mixed use communities.


In many ways the "anti-sprawl" arguments today are just masquerading as anti-growth arguments.
Densify Calgay's current urban footprint to about 3000 people/sq.km and I'll fully get behind more greenfield development. We under utilize so much of our current land that all these Greenfield developments just don't make sense. Us Calgarians have fooled ourselves into believing everyone needs to own a double garage detached home with a full sized back yard. But then we also complain about our city being so void of street life and taxes continuously rising. Plus with interest rates showing no sign of peaking, we'll eventually face a similar situation like we did post-2014 and 2008, where a glut of dirt cheap new homes in newer communities will have a negative impact on demand for inner-city homes. Many inner city communities will once again decline and then we'll all be back here complaining about the hollowing of our city and the tax burden we'll likely face. This pattern has been proven decade after decade now. Does a short housing boom, after so many years of talk about densification, make our city hall this short sighted?
 
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This is my problem with adding new communities:


Things have to change eventually.
This is precisely my problem as well. I can screenshot so many streets off of Google maps in older communities where redevelopment is restricted and many single lots can accommodate 2-3 units of attached homes. I don't even want to get started with how much space we waste on dead grass that is supposedly meant to serve as some sort of divider between roads and homes, or beautification of a road, or some potential 2070 lane expansion. We can easily stick up thousands of homes along such strips of grass and even wide off-roads in many of our 1970-90's era designed communities.

The picture of 64th ave NE isn't meant to be an example of where homes could be built but more so to demonstrate how much space we waste. It's almost criminal. Compare further below to a similar street in Surrey BC where the lots are tight up against the roadway. Hardly any wasted space.
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