They changed the name to Versant.
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BrandedBlue
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Thanks for keeping this updated Surreal! What do you use as a limit for greenfield vs non-greenfield? For example Shawnessy Station apartments are 16 km from downtown, where as the developments at Springbank Hill near Ambrose University / 17 Ave SW are just 10km from downtown. Both seem like a bit of a grey area, replacing low density / undeveloped land with apartments, in areas surrounded by older suburban development. Medicine Hill would be another example like this.
maestro
Senior Member
I expected one or more of the Truman high rises to have broken ground. It makes my mind spin. Did they sell at too low a price point for the rapidly rising construction costs? Those escalating costs also make me weary of new rental high rise construction like West Village 3.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
One of the Truman ones, I can't remember the name but it is the one where DOP is, the tenants are there until September so could see some action after that on that one. The one on 11th I thought had soil sampling done not long ago.
Agreed, what is defined as greenfield is a bit of a gray area. The general rule is whether the build is happening in an neighborhood that has been fully built out for a decade as opposed to a build that's part of an expansion of the city's footprint. For example Evanston has been around for some time, but isn't 100% built out, as there are atill a few undeveloped lots.
Shawnessy Station is an outlier because of how far out it is, and could be in an area not technically 'built out' as that lot has always been empty, but because it's been empty for over a decade I've considered it as a density increase in a developed area. It's not a perfect system
The general idea of the list is to get an idea of the level of development that is increasing the city's density on the existing built out footprint. Of course that footprint will always be changing and also some neighborhoods take a long time to fully build out, thus the 10 years after build out.
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Nawads
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Gallery on 10th - Which I'm surprised it hasn't broken ground yet, originally tenants were supposed to be out last year and then got extended. But I do suspect it will start later this year as its the oldest Truman project to sell out and not yet be under construction.
The 2 on 11th, Imperia and Lincon are not sold out yet, although I think they've both had 50-90% sales so far, but completion dates aren't until 2028, so I suspect they might start next summer.
Lincoln doesn't even have a Development Permit applied for yet.
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UrbanWarrior
Senior Member
If we got Lincoln, Imperia, and Gallery all under construction simultaneously, that would be (arguably) the 3 nicest condo towers in the prairies under construction simultaneously, within 3 blocks of each other. Major addition of diversity of the look of buildings in the skyline from the south view, and another 1,000+ people.
Mountain Man
Senior Member
Remember that permits are taking at least 2x as long at the city, and contractors are having a very hard time finding labour. The Truman towers will go ahead, but I wouldn't expect anything until next year. Aside from maybe demolition, if there is anything to demolish.
jdixon
Active Member
I personally suspect that Truman isn't wanting to start on any other concrete buildings until they're complete Frontier in Hillhurst.
Q3 2024. Quite a few taken off the list, but quite a few added. If there is something missing, let me know.
| U/C Core | units | U/C Inner City | units | U/C Suburban (non-greenfield) | units | ….............. | …................. | ….............. | ||
| Eau Claire Place | 90 | 1901 College | 65 | |||||||
| Yellowstone | 205 | Flyover Block | 65 | Alexandria (Currie) | 168 | |||||
| EV 606 | 44 | Munro | 198 | Aria Encore | 303 | |||||
| Eau Claire Place II | 195 | Versant | 66 | Autumn | 162 | |||||
| AHC 6th ave | 70 | Killarney Multi Res | 96 | Belvedere Landing | 214 | |||||
| Riverpark | 52 | River's Edge | 102 | BTYYC | 44 | |||||
| Broward | 152 | 1900 Marda Loop | 120 | Crown Park | 156 | |||||
| First & Park | 211 | Kensington Mixed Use | 180 | Davenport (Currie) | 193 | |||||
| 4th Street Lofts | 270 | Frontier | 266 | Dean's Landing | 135 | |||||
| Teck Place | 113 | 1615 33rd ave | 22 | Elbow 5 Eight | 255 | |||||
| The Barron | 94 | Homespace 12 ave | 35 | Harmony One | 36 | |||||
| Imperia | 273 | Bankview 19-14 | 78 | King's Landing | 135 | |||||
| Enzo | 70 | Magna | 82 | |||||||
| 1732 | 30 | Mission Landing | 70 | |||||||
| Nest | 70 | Mission Hill Landing | 117 | |||||||
| Aeropark 18 | 65 | PCH 3404 | 44 | |||||||
| Francesco | 220 | The Nines | 85 | |||||||
| Sovereign | 149 | Shaganappi Multiresidential | 99 | |||||||
| Trail 31 | 50 | |||||||||
| Varsity Mixed Use | 44 | |||||||||
| The Vibe | 102 | |||||||||
| West 33 | 149 | |||||||||
| WestUrban37 | 177 | |||||||||
| 1921 24th Ave | 27 | |||||||||
| Smits @ Montgomery | 88 | |||||||||
| Total | ||||||||||
1769 | 1897 | 2935 | 6601 | |||||||
| New | …............ | …............... | …............ | |
| Added Yellowstone | 205 | |||
| Added Imperia | 273 | |||
| Added Nest | 70 | |||
| Added Aeropark 18 | 65 | |||
| Added Sovereign | 149 | |||
| Added Francesco's | 220 | |||
| Added 1921 24th Ave | 27 | |||
| Added Smits @ Montgomery | 88 | |||
| Total New | 1097 | |||
| Removed | ||||
| Park Central II | 460 | |||
| Block on 4th | 39 | |||
| The Hive | 140 | |||
| The Forge | 83 | |||
| Argyle | 151 | |||
| Oliver | 461 | |||
| Cascade | 45 | |||
| Sunalta heights | 333 | |||
| Total Removed | 1712 |
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UrbanWarrior
Senior Member
Looks like you forgot to remove Sunalta Towers too.
Interesting that now, the largest single project underway in the city is in University District! Aria Encore with 303 units.
Interesting that now, the largest single project underway in the city is in University District! Aria Encore with 303 units.
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Interesting for sure. We are having record housing start numbers, but the number of larger multifamily in established areas seems to be dropping a bit. Part of it's due to the high number of row home projects between 6-16 units, and part of it is due to the high amount of multifamily on the city's fringes.
JWhite
Active Member
Also that home space project on 12th Ave. has officially opened
I didn’t add Home space just because technically it was October 15 but will be added Q4 