Urban Sky
Senior Member
In what kind of circumstances would that be useful or necessary?
Or again: what is the problem you are trying to fix?
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Or again: what is the problem you are trying to fix?
nfitz
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I'd say anytime that a VIA train inbound to Toronto gets stuck at a GO station. Similar to arrangements in place with other transit providers.
Though that wasn't the case here.
crs1026
Superstar
This web post originates with an enthusiast who has been diligently pursuing the outcome of the teardown and compression testing on VIA’s legacy fleet. VIA has released a certain amount of information about the test results to this individual. While this source is unofficial I take their report as substantially accurate.and authoritative.
To summarize their summary:
- VIA’s testing has revealed some aging issues with the fleet, but the cars tested have held up well so far and the more extreme tests have produced favourable results
- Engineering simulations have suggested that buffer cars do provide an increment to safety
- Many, but possibly not all of the structural issues can be managed through VIA’s teardown and inspection program
- More to come ie more types of cars must be tested and the results analysed
it’s informative to read this report as it does articulate much of what the tests have been about. clearly VIA is not yet out of the woods yet, and buffer cars will be with us for a while yet.
- Paul
To summarize their summary:
- VIA’s testing has revealed some aging issues with the fleet, but the cars tested have held up well so far and the more extreme tests have produced favourable results
- Engineering simulations have suggested that buffer cars do provide an increment to safety
- Many, but possibly not all of the structural issues can be managed through VIA’s teardown and inspection program
- More to come ie more types of cars must be tested and the results analysed
it’s informative to read this report as it does articulate much of what the tests have been about. clearly VIA is not yet out of the woods yet, and buffer cars will be with us for a while yet.
- Paul
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Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
Anyone looking to ride go for free is more likely to simply board the train without buying a ticket and take the risk of being caught. Or on weekends buy the $10 weekend pass and not activate until they are fare checked (not as viable now that weekend passes expire after a week). Via fares cost way more than go fares why would someone attempt that?
In the air travel industry in the event of a delay the airline can issue vouchers or passes for travel on the substitute airline. Via can issue a voucher to passengers for use on go and/or have via operations centre notify go operations that passengers with a ticket for trip x can ride for free.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Why are you guys overcomplicating this? Like @nfitz said, it would be just like the agreement that GO already has with the TTC, which seems to work fine.
If there is a major unplanned service disruption on a GO line, GO Transit contacts the TTC and invokes the agreement. So for the duration of the disruption on the GO line, TTC staff accept GO Transit proof of payment. The inverse is true when the subway shuts down unexpectedly. For example, one time I was heading west on Line 2 and the line shut down at Jane the operator informed passengers that they were now able to ride GO Transit for free to bypass the closure, encouraging people to alight at Dundas West.
Example from Kennedy Station page on GO Transit website:
The agreement only applies while there is an major unplanned service disruption, and for the purpose of avoiding that disruption. There are very few people who will think "oh boy there's a major service disruption, let me go buy and refund a VIA ticket so I can join the chaos on the corresponding GO train!".
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Urban Sky
Senior Member
It was not clear to me about what situations we were talking about. If it's really just about VIA passengers detraining a stranded VIA train and continuing the journey on GO, then simply distributing them single-use GO tickets while still on board would be sufficient. If you were to tell them to just take the GO, you would now have to check with GO for which trains exactly they would wave the requirement to buy a ticket and whether they would still want to require proof of a VIA ticket...
nfitz
Superstar
I think you may be overthinking this. Which trains - any travelling the same direction. The $ we are talking about is peanuts - so why worry about the ramifications - you'd easily spend more money with wonky policy debates; and the auditor-general loves to put those in the headlines.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
How about making a policy that if they brought their VIA ticket (paper or e-ticket) to the ticket agent they can get a GO ticket to Union for free if their train is stranded.
crs1026
Superstar
I'm really wondering why we are down this rabbit hole. The number of instances where this suggestion could actually be placed into effect are next to zero. How many trains are ever stranded right at the platform of a GO station? If VIA is blocked, GO will probably be blocked also.
Can't apply in the outward direction because GO doesn't go as far as VIA.
Seems hardly worth the effort of working out a protocol. Or even noodling on what that protocol would be.
- Paul
Can't apply in the outward direction because GO doesn't go as far as VIA.
Seems hardly worth the effort of working out a protocol. Or even noodling on what that protocol would be.
- Paul
reaperexpress
Senior Member
In other news, today VIA 46 arrived in Cobourg 2 minutes late, and is projected to be over 3 hours late at Kingston. Any guesses?
I looked up the train status on Via's website and all they say is "train is significantly delayed". Yeah I can see that, but why?
I looked up the train status on Via's website and all they say is "train is significantly delayed". Yeah I can see that, but why?
Allandale25
Senior Member
crs1026
Superstar
The fatality involved train 66.
The resulting backlog of trains led to three trains taking a delay enroute of over three hours (66, 46, and 55) one delayed over 2 hours (68) and six more with delays of 1-2 hours (54, 668, 48, 69, 59, and 669).
- Paul
The resulting backlog of trains led to three trains taking a delay enroute of over three hours (66, 46, and 55) one delayed over 2 hours (68) and six more with delays of 1-2 hours (54, 668, 48, 69, 59, and 669).
- Paul
Allandale25
Senior Member
100+ passengers stuck on VIA Rail train near Toronto after breakdown
More than 100 passengers were stuck on railcars in the Greater Toronto Area after mechanical issues brought a VIA Rail train to a halt Friday afternoon.
www.cp24.com
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Two items.
First, I assume this construction and other work at TMC happening right now is to prepare the yard for the Chargers and Ventures?
Second, the fourth trainset is in Canada now. 28 more to go.
First, I assume this construction and other work at TMC happening right now is to prepare the yard for the Chargers and Ventures?
Second, the fourth trainset is in Canada now. 28 more to go.
drum118
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What elevator is working for Kennedy GO Station as there are current none in place as of April 20th???