[sacred]

UWaterloo has a 10% discount, excluding Escape and Prestige.
I’m not sure how “fairness” comes into play in the slightest, as clearly the schools/alumni associations each have an arrangement with VIA…

 

[kEiThZ]

@AlvinofDiaspar

Is it okay to promote ticket fraud on Urban Toronto?

 

[Allandale25]

Subtle reference to HFR and the Havelock Sub through Pickering?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1483206306081165312

 

[Urban Sky]

Subtle reference to HFR and the Havelock Sub through Pickering?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1483206306081165312

I wouldn't count on an HFR station at Claremont (intersection with Highway 1), which is the only remotely plausible station location along the Havelock Sub which lies within the city limits of Pickering...

 

[crs1026]

I wouldn't count on an HFR station at Claremont (intersection with Highway 1), which is the only remotely plausible station location along the Havelock Sub which lies within the city limits of Pickering...

I suspect that’s exactly why Pickering is getting in early with advocacy towards a station somewhere.

When one considers that the stop in Oshawa is so popular that almost every (or was it every?) Ottawa and Montreal train stopped there, we ought to be concerned about HFR sidestepping Durham Region altogether. There’s no easy placement for a station on the new line, but it’s too big and important a potential ridership base to dismiss, or to relegate to a local service that may demand a change of trains in Kingston.

- Paul

 

[roger1818]

I wouldn't count on an HFR station at Claremont (intersection with Highway 1), which is the only remotely plausible station location along the Havelock Sub which lies within the city limits of Pickering...

I agree 100%. One promise the government might be making is that once HFR is built, some of the lakeshore trains will stop at the Pickering GO station. Assuming that some of the lakeshore trains will still continue on to Ottawa and Montreal (possibly with an extended stop in Kingston to help catch up if running late), that would give Pickering direct access to those cities.

 

[KevinT]

• But on the outside looking in, someone who went to York might say something along the lines of "Why do Western, Queens, and McGill alumni who's parents have more money get a 15% lifetime discount for VIA, while I get a 0% discount, I'm going to use the Western discount because it's not fair".

... and numerous other points which I shall sum up here:

I've noticed that you often forget to lock your door when you're busy. You have a nicer TV than I do, and I don't think that's fair. Ergo, I go into your house and steal your TV because you made it easy, and encourage others online to do the same.

Totally legit, right?

 

[kEiThZ]

I suspect that’s exactly why Pickering is getting in early with advocacy towards a station somewhere.

When one considers that the stop in Oshawa is so popular that almost every (or was it every?) Ottawa and Montreal train stopped there, we ought to be concerned about HFR sidestepping Durham Region altogether. There’s no easy placement for a station on the new line, but it’s too big and important a potential ridership base to dismiss, or to relegate to a local service that may demand a change of trains in Kingston.

- Paul

A stop north of Scarborough and the east end of Markham would be so much better. Good for the tech community to connect between Kanata and Markham. Pickering, not so much.

 

[Urban Sky]

I agree 100%. One promise the government might be making is that once HFR is built, some of the lakeshore trains will stop at the Pickering GO station. Assuming that some of the lakeshore trains will still continue on to Ottawa and Montreal (possibly with an extended stop in Kingston to help catch up if running late), that would give Pickering direct access to those cities.

This would become feasible at very low capital cost if you connect the Southern platform of Pickering Station with the Kingston Sub towards Oshawa, but you would still need to avoid GO trains, which might be scheduled from that platform during peak hours...

 

[dowlingm]

I wouldn't count on an HFR station at Claremont (intersection with Highway 1), which is the only remotely plausible station location along the Havelock Sub which lies within the city limits of Pickering...

Except that the area south of Claremont includes the remaining non-transferred airport lands. My suspicion in any case is that if HFR is routed off the Havelock and onto Stouffville trackage for the trip down, what Pickering will really want is a branch of GO Stouffville over that self-same trackage, similar to the overlay of VIA along the North Main Line to Kitchener and London.

Source for the upper image: https://www.tvo.org/article/rouge-p...ze-will-pickering-airport-plans-ever-take-off

 

[kEiThZ]

I agree 100%. One promise the government might be making is that once HFR is built, some of the lakeshore trains will stop at the Pickering GO station. Assuming that some of the lakeshore trains will still continue on to Ottawa and Montreal (possibly with an extended stop in Kingston to help catch up if running late), that would give Pickering direct access to those cities.

I sincerely hope the government doesn't reneg on its Kingston hub promise. Through service in Kingston will mess that up.

 

[Urban Sky]

Except that the area south of Claremont includes the remaining non-transferred airport lands. My suspicion in any case is that if HFR is routed off the Havelock and onto Stouffville trackage for the trip down, what Pickering will really want is a branch of GO Stouffville over that self-same trackage, similar to the overlay of VIA along the North Main Line to Kitchener and London.

Source for the upper image: https://www.tvo.org/article/rouge-p...ze-will-pickering-airport-plans-ever-take-off

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From all I've heard as a non-Ontarion, the Pickering Airport proposal is more than dead. Also, not sure how you want to build a link to Mount-Joy through "Rouge National Urban Park", nor how you want to avoid conflicts with Metrolinx as they are "increasing the number of weekly train trips from 1,500 to about 6,000" including service every 15 minutes to Unionville...

I sincerely hope the government doesn't reneg on its Kingston hub promise. Through service in Kingston will mess that up.

The more stops you serve (and Lakeshore services will skip far less stops than today post-HFR), the less your average speed deviates from that of freight trains, thus reducing your delays. I imagine that a scheduled dwell time of 20-30 minutes in Kingston would provide enough of a buffer to allow for an acceptable on-time performance at train departure in Kingston...

 

[Bordercollie]

is that once HFR is built, some of the lakeshore trains will stop at the Pickering GO station. Assuming that some of the lakeshore trains will still continue on to Ottawa and Montreal (possibly with an exte

This is in pickering but there is nothing there.

This area by the Smart Centres would be a good place to have a station but it's before York Durham Line.

 

[kEiThZ]

This is in pickering but there is nothing there.

This area by the Smart Centres would be a good place to have a station but it's before York Durham Line.

This is exactly my pick too!

Direct access to the 407. Not far from the Markham-Stouffville hospital hub. Not far from Hwy 7 or Steeles. Donald Cousens is a proper non-stroad arterial than can support bus lanes too.

 

[roger1818]

This would become feasible at very low capital cost if you connect the Southern platform of Pickering Station with the Kingston Sub towards Oshawa, but you would still need to avoid GO trains, which might be scheduled from that platform during peak hours...

Will GO continue to use that platform after GO RER is complete? Looking at the current schedule, it doesn't look like they are using it now (the track at that platform is currently disconnected from the Kingston sub at the east end and none of the trains end at Pickering, thought that might be COVID).

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Even if GO does plan to use that platform, I only suggested that some of the trains could stop there. If there was a scheduled conflict with GO, VIA could skip the station.

While I am not convinced that it is a good idea for VIA to do this, it is a better option than having an HFR Pickering station on the Havelock Sub.