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How should Toronto connect the East and West arms of the planned waterfront transit with downtown?

  • Expand the existing Union loop

    Votes: 205 71.2%

  • Build a Western terminus

    Votes: 13 4.5%

  • Route service along Queen's Quay with pedestrian/cycle/bus connection to Union

    Votes: 31 10.8%

  • Connect using existing Queen's Quay/Union Loop and via King Street

    Votes: 22 7.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 17 5.9%
  • Total voters
    288
ADRM said:
I believe it's correct to say that it was not voted on yesterday. And, oh dear, I hadn't realized that these motions will result in a report-back on Phase 2 by 2017. We'll have had an Expo, an Olympics, and another couple Pan Am Games, and a Leafs Stanley Cup or four by the time shovels are in the ground here. Sigh.
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The planning department is about half the size it should be for the amount of work they get; and since across the board budget cuts hit them too it's not getting better.

Council has little intention of actually finding money to construct solutions to our transportation issues. If they did, they'd want to get the planning/design work done much faster.
 
rbt said:
The planning department is about half the size it should be for the amount of work they get; and since across the board budget cuts hit them too it's not getting better.

Council has little intention of actually finding money to construct solutions to our transportation issues. If they did, they'd want to get the planning/design work done much faster.
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Yep - the vast majority of Toronto residents haven't the fondest clue they have a staunchly pro-austerity Council currently installed. And that's a damn shame.
 
You need people to do more studies. With the budget cut demands, even just getting people to do any studies will be impossible to do with demands to have staff reductions.
 
The item was passed by Council some minutes ago now, along with the following amendments moved by Mark Grimes:

1. City Council request the Deputy City Manager, Cluster B, the General Manager, Economic Development, the Chief Planner and Executive Director, City Planning, the Toronto Transit Commission and Metrolinx to establish an immediate dialog with the new owners of the 27 acre (Mr. Christie's) site at 2150 Lake Shore Boulevard West at Park Lawn to explore the feasibility of a new transit hub.

2. City Council recognize the immediate need for improved transit in the Humber Bay Shores area and request the Deputy City Manager, Cluster B to report back on the results of Phase 2 of the Waterfront Transit "Reset" in the second quarter of 2017.​

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rbt said:
The planning department is about half the size it should be for the amount of work they get; and since across the board budget cuts hit them too it's not getting better.

Council has little intention of actually finding money to construct solutions to our transportation issues. If they did, they'd want to get the planning/design work done much faster.
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What if that's not true and the place is really very poorly run? What if the place needs a leader with vision - whose head is not up his parochial ass - to create a vision and then work to implement it? What if we really just have a slew of petty local councillors each running their own little fiefdom with no regard for how it stacks up for the city as a whole? And what if the populace at large had little idea of that?
 
Pier 27 Tower announced they will begin construction in September. 1-7 Yonge Street gets its second hearing before the OMB in September with a two week hearing in October. Possibly looking at next year for sales/construction? Many of the high-rises further east are starting to take shape. In four to six years there will be a lot of people living on QQE.

The WTR Phase 1 Study included the following:

Eastern Waterfront Transit Financing
  • Waterfront Toronto is initiating a process to identify options for financing transit, with a focus on alternative and private revenue sources.
  • WT is working with NBLC and ECONorthwest in producing a mapping tool focused on the potential for value capture within the study area.
  • WT is also receiving expert advice, through an Advisory Panel and Subject Matter Experts, on options within the legislative framework, or changes that might be required, to implement potential options.
  • We hope to have a report prepared for City Council by late summer 2016.

Has anybody heard updates on have access to anything WT has to say on this subject? When is the report going to City Council?
 
TransitBart said:
What if that's not true and the place is really very poorly run? What if the place needs a leader with vision - whose head is not up his parochial ass - to create a vision and then work to implement it? What if we really just have a slew of petty local councillors each running their own little fiefdom with no regard for how it stacks up for the city as a whole? And what if the populace at large had little idea of that?
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We had a great new person in the role of Keezmat's deputy for Sustainable Transportation (transit and cycling). She stayed about 9 months, and left before the 'compromise' for Scarborough was presented by planning. I'm going to take a guess and blame the political pressure on the fact we lost a very strong person in the role.
 
I'm sorry if I am out to lunch and missed this, but it's news to me. Mixed in with asking council to proceed with Phase 2 of the Waterfront Reset, there is a request to provide funds to design a streetcar extension from Exhibition Loop to Dufferin Gate Loop, thus "closing the gap". From June 20th, 2016, adopted at the July City Council meeting.

3. City Council direct the Deputy City Manager, Cluster B to submit for Council's consideration as part of the 2017 Budget process, a funding request to initiate a 30% preliminary design by the TTC for the extension of streetcar service from the Exhibition Loop to the Dufferin Gate Loop, in accordance with the approved Environmental Assessment Modification Report (2008.PG17.10), and to be coordinated with plans to replace the Dufferin Street bridge over the Gardiner Expressway and Lake Shore West Rail Corridor.
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The cost of retaining consulting services to assist the TTC in completing a preliminary design up to 30% level of detail for extending the existing streetcar in its own right-ofway from the Exhibition Loop to the Dufferin Gate Loop is estimated by the TTC at $3.6 million. The cost will be presented for Council's consideration as part of the 2017 Budget process.

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2016/ex/bgrd/backgroundfile-94287.pdf
 
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