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PinkLucy said:
I agree, but it's amazing how socialist has become such a trigger to many, particularly stateside
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That explains the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the United States (in relative and absolute numbers for both cases and deaths).
 
Videodrome said:
www.huffingtonpost.ca

Gun Advocates, Social Conservatives Question Place In O’Toole’s Party

Ousting Derek Sloan from the Conservative Party has prompted questions from other members.
www.huffingtonpost.ca www.huffingtonpost.ca
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From the above:
The national gun debate is generally seen as pitting the concerns of hunters and farmers in rural regions, who see firearms as an essential part of their lives, against urban dwellers who only think of guns in the context of crime.
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As an urban gun owner, I think we need to move past this.

"Guns bad"
and
"Guns good"

Is a false dichotomy. Penalising law-abiding gun owners whilst completely failing at stemming the source of guns used in the majority of crimes in urban centres isn't a reasonable approach to gun policy.

I think if more people could live in both worlds as I do they might be able to understand better the concerns of the other. My childhood neighbourhood is rife with gun crime now. It never was. Not even in the bad old early 90s, which saw the peak of crime rates in Canada. It's sad.
That doesn't mean guns are bad and that we should make it as hard as possible for all and sundry to own a gun.
It means we need to look at where the guns used in these crimes are coming from and why these crimes are occurring and deal with the source problem!

I know that's more work, but it's the reasonable thing to do.

Disclosure: I own hunting rifles. For hunting. Not for bang-bang gang bangs. ;)
 
PinkLucy said:
I agree, but it's amazing how socialist has become such a trigger to many, particularly stateside
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What's amazing is that people who have no idea what it's like to live in a socialist state are amazed that some people might be triggered by the idea of creeping socialism.

The majority of people in Canada have had it too easy in their lives and don't know the reality of what's out there, including what socialism really is.
 
Well, there are people who romanticize socialism, and there are those who see it as the boogeyman in every shadow. In the US, single payer is demonized as socialist in the US, despite the fact that a huge percent of their population has government health insurance, and every other wealthy democracy has some form of it.
 
afransen said:
Well, there are people who romanticize socialism, and there are those who see it as the boogeyman in every shadow. In the US, single payer is demonized as socialist in the US, despite the fact that a huge percent of their population has government health insurance, and every other wealthy democracy has some form of it.
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That's probably because some people can't see past the logical fallacy that if all socialist countries have single-payer healthcare then it follows that single-payer healthcare is socialist.

What's really strange down there is the fact that their healthcare costs are ridiculously high without concomitant superior health outcomes.
 
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