IanO
Senior Member
It is an important connector as mentioned above and needed to be done.
At one point this was going to be renamed 'Oilers Way'.
At one point this was going to be renamed 'Oilers Way'.
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trevorhayden
New Member
It wasn't well used because it was an unpleasant space. Now it will be pleasant and well-used.
itom987
Active Member
Let's hope the return on investment at minimum matches the investment.
kcantor
Active Member
^. ^^
if “pleasant and well used“ and “roi based on use” are the criteria, why couldn’t we find $6m after a dozen years to fix scona pool?
if “pleasant and well used“ and “roi based on use” are the criteria, why couldn’t we find $6m after a dozen years to fix scona pool?
Avenuer
Senior Member
cloney
New Member
Does anyone know if there are plans for 101st on the west side of this project? While i think this project will do a lot, I cant help but think 101st bisecting this avenue is going to be very detrimental to the project as a whole. 101st as a whole i think could greatly benefit from some road narrowing, wider sidewalks, bikelanes etc as well as the mess of the 101st & 103/102Aave intersection, but especially when so many resources are being put into this avenue, the effect of 101st on the area seems to be overlooked
IanO
Senior Member
101 is too much of a north/south artery for calming or narrowing, but certainly needs sidewalk redos and repaving.
TAS
Senior Member
I agree. There is going to be more and more people living very close to 101 street and it's important to prioritize people/pedestrians first, then bikes, transit, emergency vehicles and then cars (taken from urban planner Brent Toderian). Not nearly as many people driving into dt on 101 as prepandemic. Let's prioritize differently.
cloney
New Member
Seems like an odd take, to say that so many people use it so only the least efficient form of transportation should be provided for it. I don't think 6 lanes of roads (plus on street parking in some spots) should ever be present in a city's core. This is prioritizing commuting over living, not a mindset that makes a city livable
IanO
Senior Member
We have multiple options for more walkable, bikeable and urban streets in the area and sometimes need a few main arteries to remain primarily vehicular in focus.
cloney
New Member
Why do you think we need roads in the core of the city to be designed this way?
TAS
Senior Member
Agreed again - 6 lanes of vehicle traffic plus as you noted on Street parking in some spots is way overdoing it as we're trying to build up density in and around here and enhance livability.
While it's no one's goal to eliminate vehicle traffic, a 20-30% reduction of car trips is what the city is planning for in favor of other more efficient modes of transportation and our decisions need to reflect that.
IanO
Senior Member
I'm not saying there is not room for improvement, but 101 is a key artery that has a significant amount of feeder roads/parkades and volume.
trevorhayden
New Member
I think the 101 Street bus lanes being built further north will be eventually extended into downtown.
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IanO
Senior Member
Exactly.
Keep curb-side lanes for transit, bikes, taxis.
Keep curb-side lanes for transit, bikes, taxis.