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From the article:
"It'll be a test to see how safe that is with a lot of seniors in Chinatown, they will be leery about walking on the street with a car right behind them. But again, this is something we have to see," Wong said.

I know he's the head of the Chinatown BRZ, but how has he never noticed that this block is already one of the the most heavily jaywalked in the city? (Which makes sense; lots of retail and activity both sides, not a lot of traffic). Slowing the cars down more will only help.
 

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Does anyone have a pathways and bikeways map of Calgary? I can't find one.
 

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Thank you! Pieced it together in medium rez...


Calgary Pathway System.jpg
 

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I am not optimistic with this design. You have 3 completely different cycling orientations that now require users to transition from a 2 way track to one way tracks and then onto a shared road. This "detour" is for the riverwalk pathway so we are expecting casual users to now try and navigate this hodgepodge. The block west of center is busy with traffic and I'm not sure how comfortable someone will be going from a separated bike lane to suddenly 'sharing' the road with impatient drivers. At a minimum for this to be successful the city needed to maintain continuity through the entire stretch. Another cycling infrastructure miss IMO where the city refuses to be bold enough.

EDIT: After looking at the engagement slides I'm confused what will happen b/w center and 1st st SW. One image shows separated one way lanes the other shows a shared lane. And I also noticed the city has separated one way lanes north of 3rd on 5th street - which would be really nice except they are once again forcing users to somehow merge diagonally from one way tracks to 2 way tracks across traffic crossing 2 lanes of vehicle traffic
 
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I used the 2nd st cycle path today for the first time. I don't know why it took me so long. It's great, and it's so nice that it goes all the way to 26th ave and the river. If only the 5th street track was like that. It also seems easier to time hitting the green lights than it does in the 5th street track.
 

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The adaptive lane program is back for this summer -- it has been for a while -- and it's not as secretive as it was last year. Most of what's there now was there last year as well; the Memorial Drive lanes in Sunnyside, the lower deck of the Centre Street Bridge, 12th St in Inglewood/Ramsay, Elbow Drive, 50th Ave and Crescent Road.

There's a new lane as well, on the Bow Trail Connector from Pumphouse Road to 10th St W -- this lane is reversed on weekday mornings to run eastbound into downtown, and now on weekends it's opened to cyclists, pedestrians and other active mode users.
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It's kind of a fun road, the bridge under 14th St is cool, and it's a busy pathway, especially the east end, which was the single busiest pathway segment for cyclists in the 2018 counts. (It's a missed opportunity that they didn't take this lane all the way to the Louise Bridge, because that's the busiest end of the pathway, and they could easily have diverted the traffic south on 9th St.)

Unfortunately, in my experience, it's not being used -- probably 85% of the cyclists I've seen in two trips on this corridor were on the pathway, where on Memorial it's more like 85% on the roadway. I suspect this is partially the signage's fault.

From the east end, here's the signage -- the arrow on the sign is actually pointing away from the adaptive lane:
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From the west end, it's worse; the arrow also points away from the road, but you also have to backtrack to go onto the road from the main pathway connecting from the Crowchild bridge. This is what it looks like (as you approach at 15+ km/h):
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And in the middle, there's no way to connect near the 14th St bridge at all other than going across a bunch of grass and down a curb -- there is a great spot about 150m west of the bridge where the pathway and road come together with a wide shoulder space on the road just before the jersey barrier starts, and a plausible spot about 200m east of the bridge. At 11th St, which is a bike corridor and by far the busiest street, the signage is:
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There's the pathway sign on the sides of these posts, so if you're already using the lane you know it continues, but not even a clue to those who aren't.

It's a good route, it could be better with tweaks (extend it to Louise and open it Friday at 6 PM) and much better signage and access. But I'm worried that people won't understand it's open, so the ridership will be low, so it'll be cut.
 

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The adaptive lane program is back for this summer -- it has been for a while -- and it's not as secretive as it was last year. Most of what's there now was there last year as well; the Memorial Drive lanes in Sunnyside, the lower deck of the Centre Street Bridge, 12th St in Inglewood/Ramsay, Elbow Drive, 50th Ave and Crescent Road.

There's a new lane as well, on the Bow Trail Connector from Pumphouse Road to 10th St W -- this lane is reversed on weekday mornings to run eastbound into downtown, and now on weekends it's opened to cyclists, pedestrians and other active mode users.
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It's kind of a fun road, the bridge under 14th St is cool, and it's a busy pathway, especially the east end, which was the single busiest pathway segment for cyclists in the 2018 counts. (It's a missed opportunity that they didn't take this lane all the way to the Louise Bridge, because that's the busiest end of the pathway, and they could easily have diverted the traffic south on 9th St.)

Unfortunately, in my experience, it's not being used -- probably 85% of the cyclists I've seen in two trips on this corridor were on the pathway, where on Memorial it's more like 85% on the roadway. I suspect this is partially the signage's fault.

From the east end, here's the signage -- the arrow on the sign is actually pointing away from the adaptive lane:
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From the west end, it's worse; the arrow also points away from the road, but you also have to backtrack to go onto the road from the main pathway connecting from the Crowchild bridge. This is what it looks like (as you approach at 15+ km/h):
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And in the middle, there's no way to connect near the 14th St bridge at all other than going across a bunch of grass and down a curb -- there is a great spot about 150m west of the bridge where the pathway and road come together with a wide shoulder space on the road just before the jersey barrier starts, and a plausible spot about 200m east of the bridge. At 11th St, which is a bike corridor and by far the busiest street, the signage is:
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There's the pathway sign on the sides of these posts, so if you're already using the lane you know it continues, but not even a clue to those who aren't.

It's a good route, it could be better with tweaks (extend it to Louise and open it Friday at 6 PM) and much better signage and access. But I'm worried that people won't understand it's open, so the ridership will be low, so it'll be cut.
Thanks for the update. I'll have to get over there and check it out.
 

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Love it! I grew up in that neighborhood and I'm really glad to see 24th get some love. That road used to be really awful to walk/bike along.

Also I'm pretty sure some of those curb extensions are supposed to have trees planted in them later on.
 

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I've noticed lots of people with dogs off leash on the pathway in pumphouse park, has this always been the case? There's a sign there that I'm not sure I noticed before, pretty dumb place for dogs off leash IMO.
 

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