Go Elevated or try for Underground?

  • Work with the province and go with the Elevated option

    Votes: 22 71.0%

  • Try another approach and go for Underground option

    Votes: 7 22.6%

  • Cancel it altogether

    Votes: 1 3.2%

  • Go with a BRT solution

    Votes: 1 3.2%
  • Total voters
    31
Always_Biking said:
People might not agree with me on this, but I'm okay, and maybe even happy with the shortening. I've always wanted to see the LRT as a more of an urban transportation system and less of a suburban commuter train. My only wish would be to push the line at least one or maybe two stops further north, as you could easily increase development along Centre street, and the cost would be fairly insignificant I would think.

Eventually the line would be phased in anyway, but having it shorter allows developers and the city an opportunity to better, serve, grow and leverage inner city densities.
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My concern is it doesn't really serve any sort of substantial population centre as it is, so who will be riding it? And, it is not like there has been a lack of available TOD land for developers to leverage in this city. We can't even get one entire station ARP completed, I don't see how bringing on multiple other ones will do anything other than dilute further an already saturated market.

Sorry, not meant to be really negative, but I fear as presented, this will become a major election issue and may ultimate lead to the whole thing being sent back to the drawing board, especially when the financing costs are factored in.
 
I like the idea of the train line being less of a commuter line and more inner city transportation, but as MichaelS alluded to, the population isn't there yet. For the time being you could accomplish the same thing with busses. You could have a frequent running bus that starts at 32 and ave N and runs to and fro downtown. You col even build up your TODs around buses for now, and put the train in later.

I don't live in the southeastern suburbs, but it seems to me it would make the most sense to run it out there as a full line to start.
 
darwink said:
8 bus bays at Douglas Glen, 14 at Shepard. Next one with more than 2 is the Hospital with 6.
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Thanks Darwink!

As mentioned before, my preference would be shorter lines to start with, but I also know that it's not the best bang for the buck. Having it go to a major transit centre in the southeast makes the most sense money-wise.
 
The first phase is acceptable, but I think it would be perfect if it went up to 40 Avenue N. I feel like putting it to just 16 Ave is sort of useless for the North. I mean, I totally understand completing the most complex part of the project first, but I mean, throw the north a bone. Here's hoping that during construction, the additional 1.5 billion becomes available to do the entire rest of the line immediately after the first stage comes online.
 
That's a great option. It maintains grade separation throughout the inner city :)
 
Seems fine to me. It makes me wonder if the jog South to 12th ave isn't a bit superfluous now, but I'll take it. Burying under MacLeod was my only criteria for the area. Throw a stamp on it and start building!
 
Grade separation throughout the core neighbourhoods was my only criteria, and they have exceeded that hope. It looks like it will be separated from any kind of traffic, pedestrian or otherwise, all the way from 16 Avenue to Highfield, if not Lynnwood. From 16 Ave station to Highfield Station is 8 kilometres though, so that's pretty dang awesome! :)
 
I'm happy with the decision. Grade separation was the big thing for me too, as I would like to see the train come through downtown smoothly and not involved in any street crossings where it would have to wait for lights, etc..
 
Here are the maps from the latest articles, detailing the route of phase one.

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Shmexy. It is nice to see the plan in place. I hope they don't wait too long after the initial phase to proceed with 28th Ave N, 40th Ave N, Prestwick and Mackenzie Towne.

There are a couple of things that I that I do really like about the Green Line Victoria Park alignment after having had more time to absorb it. I really like that there will be two more C-Train stations in fairly close proximity to the Stampede Grounds and hopefully in the future, the Plan B Arena (wouldn't that be a name sponsor! :p). I also really how close the 4th Street SE station is to the East Village.

Tangentially, I too see some future train line provide more service to the Beltline. One that runs East-West along say 12th or 17th Avenues and one that runs North-South along say 2nd or 4th Streets. I hope I live to see some sort of "Yellow Line" and "Orange Line." Oh and a circle line at about the radius of foothills that....

Best that I save getting carried away on dream-tangents for the Dream Ideas thread.
 
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