[Nimbus]

Pacific Coastal started operating the WestJet Link flights yesterday from YYC, operating to Cranbrook. All WestJet Link flights are being operated by Saab 340 equipment.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/West...fNEF/E0xaro/8IQB6b0zHU/g0WJm4NeA8TLRtX5BbMR0=

 

[Surrealplaces]

https://news.delta.com/delta-and-westjet-create-new-transborder-joint-venture

Delta and WestJet to create new transborder joint venture

Looks like we are getting a direct to Atlanta.

 

[Acey]

https://news.delta.com/delta-and-westjet-create-new-transborder-joint-venture

Delta and WestJet to create new transborder joint venture

Looks like we are getting a direct to Atlanta.

To clarify, both sides are definitely working on ATL (and a possible move of seasonal YVR-DTW service to YYC) but nothing is even close to set in stone and there's absolutely nothing resembling a timeline for this.

 

[AJX]

To clarify, both sides are definitely working on ATL (and a possible move of seasonal YVR-DTW service to YYC) but nothing is even close to set in stone and there's absolutely nothing resembling a timeline for this.

Thanks for the update. It would be nice if we could get the route to ATL. Any idea if it would be a Westjet aircraft or Delta aircraft that would be used?

 

[Acey]

Thanks for the update. It would be nice if we could get the route to ATL. Any idea if it would be a Westjet aircraft or Delta aircraft that would be used?

Last I heard it was still in discussion. Not like there's a ton of types to choose from but my assumption would be a WestJet 737-700.

 

[Surrealplaces]

Does Delta still fly the MD88? I know they used to fly them, and would cover the range. If Westjet, then, yeah...pretty much looking at a 737. Delta is also getting the A220 (formerly C-series plane) That would be cool.

 

[Acey]

Does Delta still fly the MD88? I know they used to fly them, and would cover the range. If Westjet, then, yeah...pretty much looking at a 737. Delta is also getting the A220 (formerly C-series plane) That would be cool.

Yes they still fly the 88 though it's on the way out, but it's not even a consideration for multiple reasons the primary one being that YYC-ATL exceeds DL's cited range of the 88 and would be significantly longer than anything they fly it on. A220 on paper is a good for but isn't happening for logistical nonsense reasons.

 

[Surrealplaces]

Yes they still fly the 88 though it's on the way out, but it's not even a consideration for multiple reasons the primary one being that YYC-ATL exceeds DL's cited range of the 88 and would be significantly longer than anything they fly it on. A220 on paper is a good for but isn't happening for logistical nonsense reasons.

Bummer they wouldn't use the A220, I'd like to see one at YYC.

 

[darwink]

AC will use one for Ottawa probably. Maybe new routes? Enough legs for Halifax?

 

[Acey]

Enough legs for Halifax?

The effect of the improvements means CS300 now has a standard range with full passengers and luggage of 3,300nm and the CS100 3,100nm.

https://leehamnews.com/2015/06/16/cseries-range-even-better-than-bombardier-revealed/

Calgary-Halifax is just over 2,000nm, absolute child's play for a CS300.

Victoria-St. John's is 2,735 nm... this airplane potentially gives Air Canada full coast to coast capability.

 

[AJX]

https://leehamnews.com/2015/06/16/cseries-range-even-better-than-bombardier-revealed/

Calgary-Halifax is just over 2,000nm, absolute child's play for a CS300.
Victoria-St. John's is 2,735 nm... this airplane potentially gives Air Canada full coast to coast capability.

Don't they already have full coast to coast capability with the 737-800 or A320?

 

[Acey]

Don't they already have full coast to coast capability with the 737-800 or A320?

I'd say no given that a) they don't have 737-800, and b) the Rouge 319 has in the past left payload behind westbound on YHZ-YYC.

 

[darwink]

https://leehamnews.com/2015/06/16/cseries-range-even-better-than-bombardier-revealed/

Calgary-Halifax is just over 2,000nm, absolute child's play for a CS300.

Victoria-St. John's is 2,735 nm... this airplane potentially gives Air Canada full coast to coast capability.

I think they are ETOPS 120 ... I wonder if they would ever try for ETOPS 180
120:

180:

both made using http://www.gcmap.com

Probably not given the limited extra routes (everywhere to Hawaii, Azores to the Carribean)

 

[AJX]

Sorry, I meant the 737 Max 8. It should easily be enough range for Victoria to St John’s. Interesting that the A319 doesn’t have enough range for that particular flight, according to Airbus it’s range is 6900 km.

I'd say no given that a) they don't have 737-800, and b) the Rouge 319 has in the past left payload behind westbound on YHZ-YYC.

 

[Acey]

according to Airbus it’s range is 6900 km.

To say that is a theoretical number is an understatement. That number represents an 8 hour sector in still air. An A319 in a standard config (let alone a Rouge config) could not possibly ever fly that.

Heck, an A319neo could not fly that.

Herein lies the problem with Googling to derive aircraft ranges.