caltrane74
Senior Member
What about Panorama? - _ I thought this project would abutt Bathurst.
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I posted the same picture in the Parade Thread.
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What about Panorama?
I'm guessing you guys have never really been to the area. When you walk outside of HVE you feel like you're at the Rogers Centre. When you walk outside of Apex/Matrix you feel like you're in the middle of club land (in fact walk 10 seconds up blue jay way and you literally are). These areas, as some people have been saying, already were destinations.
West of Spadina on the other hand is more relevant to your complaints. However we don't know how anything there has turned out yet. Once the massive park is completed, along with all the retail/lcbo/grocery store/school/etc, it might (and probably will) also become a destination.
The Matrix buildings on Front Street are already starting to look tired after less than 5 years of building life. The rest of the buildings in the project are completely isolated from the outside world. This complex is in fact, a modern ghetto dislocated from the rest of the city. The closest development that I can compare it to would be Battery Park City in Manhattan, but there at least you are on the water and in Manhattan!
Values in this complex will not keep pace with inflation in my opinion. The foreign developer has left an ugly scar on the urban landscape of this city. The boundaries doomed the project from the get go.
Weren't you the same person who thought Trump would never get built? I'll take your predictions with a grain of salt I guess.
Anyway I've yet to encounter anyone actually living in those 4 buildings on Front who don't love the place...
Also cutting into the east side of the huge park in the fantasy rendering, as Alvin has pointed out, is aA's development of Block 31 - which will contain approximately 200 units of affordable housing and, according to aA's website, two elementary schools, a community centre and City daycare.
...The rest of the buildings in the project are completely isolated from the outside world. This complex is in fact, a modern ghetto dislocated from the rest of the city.
I think a big part of the success of CityPlace will be what develops around it, including public transport infrastructure.