BrettB
Active Member
I like that Ottewell, JP, and central areas are getting some bike love soon. Looks to me like they've chosen some important missing links to complete.
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thommyjo
Senior Member
Don’t worry, the glenwood renewal already is filling that gap! Same with 95ave from 163st to 178st by the 95ave renewal.
Only concern I still have is that 142st to 102ave connection for the west end. Especially in the winter, that’s a tough section.
And 178st from 95ave to 87ave is a major missing link. Randomly a very skinny sidewalk while north and south are MUPs. Not sure when that’s getting fixed?
Kingsway is a huge route. Especially for blatchford connectivity.
As I’ve said before though, really need to see the implementation to feel excited. 105ave downtown was a pretty big fail and 102ave in glenora is such an uncomfortable and high conflict route. 76ave and 106st were also poor builds for the sharp turns. Making winter riding, cargo bikes, and passing all super tough.
Hopefully lessons being learned?
TAS
Senior Member
Lessons were definitely learned on 106 st when you look at the new infrastructure as you travel further south - it's great. Raised sidewalks and bike path which gives a better active transportation experience - especially for pedestrians, and slows down vehicles.
SarcasticMarmot
Active Member
Very interested in what the design for the 112 ave/82 st crossing will look like. I suspect if you are biking along 112th between highlands and downtown you will end up having to cross 112 twice, once at Borden park and then again when past the train line. Don't love that and I suspect many bike commuters will continue along the south side of 112th as they do now but am excited something is happening.
TAS
Senior Member
It's a good question. Definitely should ask city's engagement team - they want feedback from people who use these routes.
Active Transportation Implementation Acceleration <activetransportation@edmonton.ca>
Kosy123
Senior Member
Whoever in the COE is reading this forum, it would be amazing to make this into a map of sorts along with fancy graphics so there's an easy to share infographic that informs people of the genuine growth in cyclists with the network. This chart is a great tool though still!
Daily Pedestrian and Bicycle Counts Chart | Edmonton - Open Data Portal
This chart shows daily bicycle and pedestrian counts that are currently being monitored along the new bike lanes in addition to some key cyclist/pedestrian traffic areas. The default view shows data for ALL counters for this month. Viewers can filter to view specific counter locations and...
All in all, good numbers and anyone who actually spends a lot of time downtown and in the core can attest to the large amount of cyclists. Much more than what I remember in 2019.
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TAS
Senior Member
I just did a two hour count as part of Velo Canada annual pedal poll.
It was from 4-6pm at 102 Ave and 110 street. Personal vehicles were all scooters since there are no cars at this location and Velo did not want scooters counted as bikes even though they share the same infrastructure.
That's 419 bikes/scooters using the bike lane infrastructure in 2 hours at this one location.
It was from 4-6pm at 102 Ave and 110 street. Personal vehicles were all scooters since there are no cars at this location and Velo did not want scooters counted as bikes even though they share the same infrastructure.
That's 419 bikes/scooters using the bike lane infrastructure in 2 hours at this one location.
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Kosy123
Senior Member
Gotta spread these stats because my god I am sick and tired of hearing complain about "useless bike lanes" when they're not even near the bike network or, even worse, live outside of Edmonton and keep spewing nonsense about city issues.
TAS
Senior Member
Yup.
A lot of our bike infrastructure is not exactly in highly visible locations for motorists so I don't think they have great awareness. And we also know when travelling at 50km/hr or more, you notice less and less around you.
As well, I was also impressed and a bit surprised by the pedestrian count. But a lot of people pass through this area. Overall, it was more than 1,000 people using active transportation in this one location.
thommyjo
Senior Member
I like this chart below more for the monthly counts. Although, it's interesting, because most routes haven't seen huge growth the last 5 years. All the data is tainted due to pre vs post covid, so it's hard to have a true baseline. But even the last 3 years, many routes have stayed flat or even declined. Some of this could be due to more new routes opening and that spreading out the cyclists that used to all use 1 route, but i doubt that's a true reason. I just don't think the city has done a lot the last 7 years really other than 1-2 new paths/lanes a year as part of renewals and no major work around storage, incentives, or school programs.
Whoever in the COE is reading this forum, it would be amazing to make this into a map of sorts along with fancy graphics so there's an easy to share infographic that informs people of the genuine growth in cyclists with the network. This chart is a great tool though still!
Daily Pedestrian and Bicycle Counts Chart | Edmonton - Open Data Portal
This chart shows daily bicycle and pedestrian counts that are currently being monitored along the new bike lanes in addition to some key cyclist/pedestrian traffic areas. The default view shows data for ALL counters for this month. Viewers can filter to view specific counter locations and...data.edmonton.ca
All in all, good numbers and anyone who actually spends a lot of time downtown and in the core can attest to the large amount of cyclists. Much more than what I remember in 2019.
Here's hoping the next 7 years we see a big climb with all the investments.
Secure bike parking at or near Rogers would be really nice. Does anyone know if there's a parkade where you can do this that's safe/monitored? An ebike rebate program federally would do wonders, especially for students. More transit integration is badly needed. Bike share would be incredible for upping usage.
Data: https://data.edmonton.ca/Monitoring-and-Data-Collection/Monthly-Bike-Counts-by-Location/gm5u-psbx
Great report on 10 ways to increase cycling in Canada: https://www.tcat.ca/wp-content/uplo...n-Canada-A-Guide-to-What-Works-2019-09-25.pdf
YEG imagineer
Active Member
This is the start of the new intersection at 149 St and 102 Ave. I'm concerned at the seemingly lack of accessibility on the future sidewalk. It looks like the corner will be a bit of a obstacle course.
northlands
Senior Member
The City really should have expropriated that small bump out on Aldritt's land to widen the sidewalk. Even on Marigold's plans it looks like it'll be a tight spot to go through, especially since they plan on planting trees on the sidewalk there. Also that's 142nd
YEG imagineer
Active Member
Woops yes 142 St
The_Cat
Senior Member
Perhaps it’s best to bring back gravel roads if people complain about bike lanes.
degrandprix
Active Member
Not sure if this has been posted already, I just found out the city is piloting a new secure bike storage facility downtown this summer! As usual it wasn't well advertised, I only found out because I emailed activetransportation@edmonton.ca asking if there were any plans for this. In their reply they said they would start communications for it soon however. It's only open Saturdays, but I imagine that will be expanded if it's well used.
https://www.edmonton.ca/transportat...ource=virtualaddress&utm_campaign=bikeparking
Here is the facility, it's on 102ave just west of Churchill:
https://www.edmonton.ca/transportat...ource=virtualaddress&utm_campaign=bikeparking
Here is the facility, it's on 102ave just west of Churchill: