[afransen]

The Bloor lanes extend into Mississauga and generated quite a bit of excitement there, I think.

Residents fight bike lane plan for a main road in Mississauga | INsauga

Community members are ramping up the fight against a plan to remove two driving lanes for new bike lanes in Mississauga.

www.insauga.com

I think of that area as 'Little Etobicoke'.

 

[generalcanada]

I think we all get that our prevailing sentiment around here is different than the prevailing sentiment in non-urbanist circles. Heck, my in-laws drive everywhere (that they can't walk to) even though they live at Yonge and College. They complain at length about bike lanes, and only stopped when I told them it was really annoying because the bike lanes keep me safe when I bike their grandson around the city. They think biking only belongs on bike paths (no explanation of how you'd even get to those with a kid if there's no safe bike lane).

We will be bitterly amused when they tear up the bike lanes and there's no difference to the congestion in the city, because the congestion isn't caused in any material way by the tiny bike lane network.

Oh ill be laughing when 5 years from now when people ask "how did the traffic get so bad?". Like yall brought this on yourselves by not wanting bike lanes

 

[Blovertis]

I have a feeling this is going to play out exactly like Ontario Place

We are all going to wake up at some point in February or March to witness sole-sourced contractors from the Province removing curbs and repainting Bloor and Yonge and nobody is going to be notified ahead of time.

This will really be a defining moment for Chow. Is she just going to roll over or is she going to mobilize a public outcry?

 

[evandyk]

This is so dumb.

Heather Mallick: We’re going to keep losing Toronto’s local treasures if we don’t make space for one another

I seek and value bike lanes. Every cyclist is giving me the gift of cleaner air. But until Toronto gets great public transit, stores need customer parking.

www.thestar.com

But until Toronto gets great public transit, stores need customer parking. Destination neighbourhoods like Bloor West Village (Book City) and Trinity Bellwoods (Type Books) attract people like me seeking non-fiction, singular cheeses, and kids’ Milk gear.

Like the other destinations she mentions, there is ample parking. In this case literally 50 metres away!

 

[evandyk]

And here's Book City (BWV):

 

[J Bacon]

This will really be a defining moment for Chow. Is she just going to roll over or is she going to mobilize a public outcry?

Ideally she would come out with a plan to do bike lanes properly.

 

[Northern Light]

Ideally she would come out with a plan to do bike lanes properly.

We're (Toronto) now building some of the best cycle tracks in North America.

Your statement is a complete non-sequitur.

 

[MisterF]

Ideally she would come out with a plan to do bike lanes properly.

Yes, by putting them on major streets where the destinations are, separating them from traffic, and building protected intersections.

Oh wait...

 

[J Bacon]

This is so dumb.

Like the other destinations she mentions, there is ample parking. In this case literally 50 metres away!

Not sure why everyone has this fetish for street parking - it is bizarre.

 

[J Bacon]

We're (Toronto) now building some of the best cycle tracks in North America.

Your statement is a complete non-sequitur.

That would be true if it didn't result in the loss of vehicle lanes.

 

[concrete_and_light]

This is so dumb.

Heather Mallick: We’re going to keep losing Toronto’s local treasures if we don’t make space for one another

I seek and value bike lanes. Every cyclist is giving me the gift of cleaner air. But until Toronto gets great public transit, stores need customer parking.

www.thestar.com

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Like the other destinations she mentions, there is ample parking. In this case literally 50 metres away!

Where are the editors at the Toronto Star? They should catch this obvious error in her piece's argument that there are literally parking lots right around the corner from these specific places she calls out?

Or can Heather Mallick just publish whatever nonsense she wants without editor oversight?

Maybe we shouldn’t impose bike lanes on major retail roads where trucks make deliveries, drivers make quick stops for coffee, and kids are picked up from daycare. At least not yet.

Anyone making this argument needs to point to on a map where a cycling route that isn't on a main street can functionally be. There are no viable alternate side-street routes. This is just a fantasy of how they wish the city was built rather than how it actually is. People who need to cycle on these roads also need to be safe regardless.

 

[J Bacon]

Anyone making this argument needs to point to on a map where a cycling route that isn't on a main street can functionally be. There are no viable alternate side-street routes. This is just a fantasy of how they wish the city was built rather than how it actually is. People who need to cycle on these roads also need to be safe regardless.

Generally speaking there is if you remove street parking.

 

[concrete_and_light]

Generally speaking there is if you remove street parking.

I'm confused do you mean if you remove street parking on main streets that would be better? In which case I agree. But that's not politically in the cards.

Or are you saying if you remove parking on side streets you could unlock alternative routes? In which case maybe in some cases yes, but in most cases there still aren't viable side street routes even if you removed parking.

 

[J Bacon]

I'm confused do you mean if you remove street parking on main streets that would be better? In which case I agree. But that's not politically in the cards.

Or are you saying if you remove parking on side streets you could unlock alternative routes? In which case maybe in some cases yes, but in most cases there still aren't viable side street routes even if you removed parking.

Removing street parking would make the streets better for transportation of all modes.

On main streets I meant that you'd likely be able to maintain vehicle lanes and add separated bike lanes as you wouldn't be constricted by parking demands.

General statements of course and like you said it would depend on the specific situation for side streets.

 

[generalcanada]

Outside of her pre-written statement im really curious what Chow is doing behind the scenes.
Fighting the province on this could define her as a mayor. Or will she roll over and accept it?