denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
If we go subway why not bring BD to McCowan/Steeles. This way it goes through all the way up, and brings more riders. And then the sheppard subway, to dean park. Create a grid
If you did that, you know Region of York (RoY) would soon be proposing sending it to 7/McCowan, and then down 7 into downtown Markham.If we go subway why not bring BD to McCowan/Steeles.
If you did that, you know Region of York (RoY) would soon be proposing sending it to 7/McCowan, and then down 7 into downtown Markham.
If you did that, you know Region of York (RoY) would soon be proposing sending it to 7/McCowan, and then down 7 into downtown Markham.
Likely as a condition of their support for transit "revenue tools"![]()
Personally, I'm willing to consider alternatives within the same budget.
Why within the same budget. Isn't this steady stream of revenue? I hope you seriously don't believe that those taxes if adopted will be temporary.
Hence my argument that if people have to pay extra for transit, they should get what they want as long as it's reasonable.
The list of projects that the new taxes are to fund has already been announced. List here. The time when those are complete and we're considering what else to build with that steady stream of revenue is at least 15-20 years from now.
There is still a limited budget. Not everyone can get what they want, even if reasonable.
this is where a strong mayor and council would have been useful to be able to push Toronto's project ahead of the others...
Meanwhile downtown residents will be the least impacted by all those taxes, and yet will benefit the most when the DRL goes by having a subway they can walk to
The provincial government is about to implement new dedicated taxes for transit. You can't expect people to pay new taxes and at the same time just accept not getting the improvements they were promised on transit.
How much of that is walk-in, and how much of that is bus transfers? There would be a new station at Lawrence East and McCowan, which would directly serve Scarborough General Hospital.
Should it work that way, though? If another project elsewhere would carry more passengers and do more to reduce congestion wouldn't it make more sense to find that rather than the Oprah Winfrey school of transit planning?
You get a rapid transit project! You get a rapid transit project! You get a rapid transit project!
Methinks we are in for lots of these stories.......everyone is gonna be in favor of revenue tools.....as long as the money is spent on them!
I'm really starting to wonder how many councilors will back a Bloor-Danforth extension. Mayor Ford will most likely vote no to it, and Doug Ford has said he will not support it. Josh Matlow and Paul Ainslie have said they want to stick with the LRT plan. I'm guessing Doug Holyday, Vincent Crisanti, Giorgio Mammoliti, Shelley Carroll and Frances Nunziata will vote it down too.
Here are the ones backing a B-D extension:
Karen Stintz, Glenn De Baeremaeker, Raymond Cho, Chin Lee, Michael Thompson, Gary Crawford, Michelle Berardinetti, Joe Mihevc, and Josh Colle. And possibly Norm Kelly and Ron Moeser.
An idea of how many students attend the Centennial College Progress Campus would be a good addition to this discussion.
(And the numbers for the co-located UTSC+Centennial College Morningside Campus would be useful for comparison)
Serving the Malvern Centre will be relatively easy, using a branch of Sheppard LRT or BRT, going up Neilson.
The loss of connection to Centennial College is a weak point of the subway option. If they are building the Durham - Ellesmere BRT, I would look at the possibility of veering it north off Ellesmere at some point just west of the Highland Creek bridge, then following the Highland Creek valley and reaching Centennial campus from the south, and finally going to STC. However, I am not familiar with the area, and do not know whether such route is technically and fiscally feasible.
this is where a strong mayor and council would have been useful to be able to push Toronto's project ahead of the others...
I get the slippery slope arguments. But realistically, I can't think of another place where you could apply it. This is the only corridor where the subway is within 22% of the price tag of the LRT. There is no other corridor where it would apply. Sheppard is an argument over cost multiples. And where in the 905 do you have these kinds of debates? The 905 debates are over whether or not to build an LRT or a BRT. I have yet to see a 905 fight over which mode of higher-order transit to build.
“You’re not going to get Scarborough residents to support any revenue tools if there’s no offer of a subway,” said Berardinetti.
If the Province moves ahead with taxes to pay for transit, it means Halton residents will be "sending the equivalent of $150 million per year for 15-plus years before the region sees any transit upgrades from Metrolinx,"