Richard White
Senior Member
2050 if they use high explosives and excavators.
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2050 if they use high explosives and excavators.
crs1026
Senior Member
The math of the progress to date does not inspire confidence that everything has been proceeding smoothly. There may have been a technical issue that has been rectified, and they may now be back on track, and perhaps even within contingency.
All the same, if so - , staying silent and hoping nobody notices is a dishonest strategy and does not meet the standard of transparency and accountability we have a right to expect from our public institutions.
Metrolinx is an enterprise that builds narratives for a living and only runs buses and trains in their spare time. All parties at Queens Park seem to like it that way.
- Paul
NIV
New Member
Hopefully they can fix the problem now that they have scheduled a “temporary intervention” south of Brimorton. The picture shows a big curve, I thought it was supposed to be a relatively straight run to Lawrence ave. Maybe there is a steering problem 
, we can only speculate if they’re not going to tell us.
, we can only speculate if they’re not going to tell us.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
81-717
New Member
Are Detroit's trains in worse condition than TTC's? Their trains "are in need of replacement" but so was the SRT. How many more years do they think they can get out of them?
nfitz
Superstar
I'd assume that an extensive rebuild is planned.
TTC's issue was a lot related to the track and systems; and the unwillingness to spend more money to extend the life for another decade.
TTC's issue was a lot related to the track and systems; and the unwillingness to spend more money to extend the life for another decade.
generalcanada
Senior Member
obligatory
Richard White
Senior Member
Do keep in mind that a few trains had already bit the big one long ago. It was not just track and systems.
JSF-1
Active Member
I figured this would happen; they'll probably buy up some of Vancouver's Mark I's as well.
nfitz
Superstar
As far as I know, none were retired until this summer. And were (are?) still on site. Doesn't mean that they couldn't be rebuilt.
It wasn't just track and systems, which is why I think the cars would require an extensive rebuild.
81-717
New Member
And buying, shipping & rebuilding SRT cars is supposedly cheaper than them simply rebuilding their own?
Nope, not at all.
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T3G
Senior Member
Correct. The first retired cars were announced only a month before the line terminated itself.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Are the TTC line 3 cars really going to be in better shape than Detroit's? It's 2 years newer and has presumably faced a far less harsh operating environment than the RT has with a milder climate and far lower operating loads. Unless Detroit is hoping to buy the ones the TTC rebuilt, but those ones are still 40 year old trains underneath..
Bureaucromancer
Active Member
My best guess is that they're intended first and foremost for cannibalization.
Even compared to the SRT fleet Detroit is small. It's exactly the kind of operation that can patch things together on an ad-hoc basis for a very long time.
Even compared to the SRT fleet Detroit is small. It's exactly the kind of operation that can patch things together on an ad-hoc basis for a very long time.
PL1
Active Member
I imagine they'll do their due diligence and make a final decision later. Interesting, though