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I hate it when Edmonton acts so self-loathing. We have entrepreneurs, various fields of research at our academic institutions, an active small business community, and leaders who will continuously fight for Edmonton. How much of an effort have we made to adapt? We need to keep learning and growing.
 
Dude, can you just answer one thing: WHAT IS IT that you have against the tech sector? Are you a frustrated developer or just blissfully ignorant to the fact the well paying, high-skilled tech jobs will be the future of ANY developed economy and Edmonton (or Canada, as a whole) is no exception to that?

Also, Calgary's economy is far from being in a more dire situation than Edmonton's. Right now, they're about the same s**t, with the difference that THE FUTURE PROSPECTS for them are increasingly better than ours, thanks to the inaction of our own people, from politicians to entrepreneurs AND the excessive negligence of the UCP (United Calgary Party, it could well be its actual name) towards Edmonton, while they spend the big bucks to save Calgary from ruin. And, again, economies do not need to be exclusively reliant on one industry or the other and local business, especially in the food and hospitality, are what keeps most cities afloat when things are bad (hence why Covid hit everyone so hard) so kudos for the brewery's on 99 St, I hope we see more stuff like this around the city (Alberta Ave, for example, could very well use such an initiative). But bringing in jobs like the ones Calgary has been landing this year: R&D tech jobs, especially, is what will bring tax revenue, grow the economy and replace O&G as the main driver of the economy. That's what will bring us the prosperity, the welfare...

And in case you still doubt that O&G will be a thing of the past in no time (I'd wager less than 15 years), get the reaction of people to the wildfires and the smoke, this past week, all around the world. Climate change is freaking real and FINALLY people are, in general, getting that we need to do something in regards to that or else we're all gonna die (pick your choice: drowned in a flood, burned alive by wildfire, lung cancer from pollution, heatstroke, starvation... people will die, in lots, from phenomena that didn't even were regularly recorded 100 years ago). Getting rid of fossil fuels is a HUGE part of that change and the technology industry is in the forefront of developing the stuff that will get us out of that hole (or do you REALLY believe that tech industry is just like, programming videogames and maintaining streaming services?). So pardon us for complaining that the CoE and the Province of Alberta should be doing more to land some of these in Edmonton, or for pointing out that we need some of these to help kickstart our economy after a brutal pandemic, or for simply wanting Edmonton to thrive, prosper and evolve.

And you mentioned before, in one of your comments, that I was aggressive, or angry, I don't remember. YOU BET YOUR A** I AM. I have absolutely ZERO patience with the kind of discourse that you're bringing in. It is because this sort of mentality that Edmonton has been taking hit after hit, not only when compared to Calgary, but even much smaller and less capable cities, such as Halifax (which is about 1/3 the size of our population and even less than that of our economy), for example. I am also angry that we have a lot of people, including a huge majority of those involved in the O&G industry, that refuse to accept that, while we might have several paths to the future of our economy, NONE of them pass through O&G. They'd rather fight against an initiative that would see them use all of those skills they have in other industries, especially low-carbon energy (hydrogen, solar, wind, NUCLEAR) than accept change.

And for anyone who is from O&G that might be reading this and is not necessarily a forum contributor: THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK! Oil & Gas workers ARE NOT EXPENDABLE! No one wants to get rid of you and make your families starve. We, the people who want changes in our economic direction, want to INCLUDE YOU in this, and even more: we know we CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU! We'll need your skills to build and operate our hydrogen (and hopefully nuclear) power plants, to maintain our solar farms, to take care of remote wind farms (like only someone who's been working in the oil rigs would know how).

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PS: I'm over sensitive with the whole environment issue after spending 3 days in the hospital with supplementary oxygen because of how the smoke triggered my worst ever asthma crisis, earlier this week.

Great Post, and I'm sorry that you had to go to the hospital because of the smoke 😞
 
I hate it when Edmonton acts so self-loathing. We have entrepreneurs, various fields of research at our academic institutions, an active small business community, and leaders who will continuously fight for Edmonton. How much of an effort have we made to adapt? We need to keep learning and growing.

Agreed on all accounts. One thing I think we're lacking lately is a higher degree of cooperation between our leaders, though. We have so many of them with great ideas and passion, but alone, they're not as powerful. This is a lesson Halifax, for example, seem to have learned. Calgary too, to some extent (see, although from different sides of the spectrum, Nenshi and Kenney play ball with each other in favor of their city, for example).
I would love if the winner of the next mayoral election sat down with his opponents, after the election, and took in some of their initiatives (and even put them to lead them, as standard-bearers for Edmonton). Some of them have A LOT in common and great ideas that, if they work together instead of bicker after the election, they can turn the tides in our favor. Especially Sohi, Watson, Krushell and Oshry (but even Nickel has some SLIGHTLY good ideas). My dream City council would see all of them with a seat in it and working as a group, for Edmonton.

I've moved here 2 years ago and barely knew anything about the city, but the people and the place made me madly in love with it and I will, forever, consider Edmonton my home, even if my career leads me elsewhere. And I would love to see the city shine like it deserves =D
 

Skills shortages in high-demand industries push companies to invest in upskilling​




Amazon wants tech workers...

Hey Amazon, check out setting up an office in Edmonton and take advantage of a steady stream of graduates from one of Canada's flagship computing science programs.... Google DeepMind, IBM and Apple are already here. What are you waiting for!?
 
QuoteToMe has raised $2.5 million in a fully-subscribed seed round, which is in addition to the $1 million it raised a year ago.

While last year’s raise was rooted in angel investments, the most recent funds were secured from venture capital investors — led by Builders VC in San Francisco, which is focused on the construction proptech space, and Blackhorn Ventures in Colorado.

 
QuoteToMe has raised $2.5 million in a fully-subscribed seed round, which is in addition to the $1 million it raised a year ago.

While last year’s raise was rooted in angel investments, the most recent funds were secured from venture capital investors — led by Builders VC in San Francisco, which is focused on the construction proptech space, and Blackhorn Ventures in Colorado.

Great to see jobs being created here in Edmonton. https://quotetome.humi.ca/job-board
 
Of my 18 friends who did engineering or computer science at the UofA, 4 have found employment here, 4 are still here, but looking all over for work, 7 are in Calgary now, 2 Vancouver, 1 Nanaimo.

The brain drain is real and serious.

And these were people with deep edmonton roots, families that live here, some were married here, multiple involved in churches and mosques.

If theyre leaving so easily, I don't want to imagine the numbers for those more mobile and with less roots in our city.
 
At the same time I know quite a few people that found jobs here and are moving and moved from Montreal. And I know 2 couple that are moving here from France, and they already found jobs here, they are acquaintances of mine. One guy is an engineer, his wife is one as well. The other couple, the guy is a carpenter.
So, I think that people are still finding well paid jobs and moving here.
I have 3 family members leaving Toronto for Edmonton in a few months. One is a paramedic, one works for the federal government and asked to be relocated here and one is a nurse who will work at Grey Nuns hospital.
Also, on Reddit I keep seeing posts about people leaving Toronto or Vancouver to move here for a better cost of living.
So, yes there are people leaving, but there are also people coming in.
 
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Of my 18 friends who did engineering or computer science at the UofA, 4 have found employment here, 4 are still here, but looking all over for work, 7 are in Calgary now, 2 Vancouver, 1 Nanaimo.

The brain drain is real and serious.

And these were people with deep edmonton roots, families that live here, some were married here, multiple involved in churches and mosques.

If theyre leaving so easily, I don't want to imagine the numbers for those more mobile and with less roots in our city.

I certainly echo this. I had a large group of friends in engineering and commerce at the U of A and can say that the strong majority of the group left Edmonton for Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver in that order, including myself. And when I did my MBA in Ontario, the Toronto students primarily stayed in Toronto, with the rest of the class taking jobs in Calgary then Montreal in that order and 0 took jobs in Edmonton (hard to take a job in Edmonton when 0 were advertised to the students).

I chatted with Cheryll Watson last week and brought this up which she recognized as an issue in a broader issue. She was part of recruiting at EEDC and would go to schools out east such as Waterloo to recruit tech students who were from Edmonton to come back. If you want people to stay, you need to have more high skilled jobs that are comparable or better in quality and pay here in Edmonton than elsewhere.

People will always consider lifestyle, housing costs, quality of life when it comes to the job hunt but if there are better and more job opportunities elsewhere, that is where people will go. Like my friends that went to work for the oil companies or myself that went into banking, those jobs didnt exist in Edmonton and no matter how much I prefer the lifestyle and cost of Edmonton to Toronto, the job sector was not in Edmonton for me to stay. In order to reduce the brain drain, we need more high skilled jobs in Edmonton to entice people to stay. I am confident in this as if there were more banking or finance type jobs, I would certainly come back to Edmonton as I do prefer the quality of life.
 

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