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kEiThZ said:
I'd like to see all the headliners run full episodes debunking their own lies. Paying out $787M will not dissuade them from doing this again.
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It’s the easy way out - now they know how much lies will cost and budget accordingly.

What *should* happen is dragging all the network hosts and execs before the court to be finished off with a dismemberment of the network, but that won’t happen.
 
I think everybody is vastly underestimating the trouble that Fox News and the right wing disinformation machine is in. See this piece from. Prof. Jeff Sonnenfeld (the guy who figured out how broken Russia's economy really is):

time.com

Dominion Settlement Is Just the Beginning of Fox’s Nightmare

The $787.5M settlement in the Dominion lawsuit will lead to further litigation and controversy for Fox and Rupert Murdoch, writes Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and Steven Tian
time.com time.com
 
kEiThZ said:
I think everybody is vastly underestimating the trouble that Fox News and the right wing disinformation machine is in. See this piece from. Prof. Jeff Sonnenfeld (the guy who figured out how broken Russia's economy really is):

time.com

Dominion Settlement Is Just the Beginning of Fox’s Nightmare

The $787.5M settlement in the Dominion lawsuit will lead to further litigation and controversy for Fox and Rupert Murdoch, writes Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and Steven Tian
time.com time.com
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Fox is old style - watch for Musk instead (and I don't doubt for one second Starlink is designed with skirting the law in mind).

AoD
 
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Donald Trump Using Bail Bondsman Rings Alarm Bells About His Finances​

From link.

Donald Trump reportedly used a bail bondsman after being arrested at Fulton County Jail in Atlanta, Georgia, on Thursday, paying $20,000 of his bond set at $200,000 and taking out a loan for the rest of it. The fact that the former president resorted to such a measure has sparked questions on social media about the state of his finances.

Trump voluntarily turned himself in at the Georgia jail where he was booked on 13 felony counts linked to his alleged efforts to overturn his loss in the 2020 election in the state. Trump and 18 co-defendants, including his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, are accused of conspiring together in the same election plot, according to the indictment released earlier this month.

Trump has been indicted four times since the beginning of the year in separate federal and criminal cases, the latest of which was in Georgia earlier this month. He has consistently denied any wrongdoing.

The former president's visit to the Atlanta jail lasted about 20 minutes in total, during which his mugshot was taken for the first time since he was indicted four times this year. He was not held in custody as he had already agreed on Monday to pay his bond, set at $200,000.
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But according to various news reports, Trump used a bail bondsman for the payment. A bail bondsman is any person, agency, or company that acts as a guarantor in the payment, charging the defendant a fee in return.

On Thursday, Trump posted bail through Georgia local bondsman Charles Shaw of Foster Bail Bonds, whose clients have included politicians and rappers, including Gucci Mane and Rick Ross. Foster Bail Bonds spokesperson Susan Barikos confirmed the involvement of the company to Insider.
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Many have described it as odd for a declared billionaire like Trump to use a bondsman instead of paying for it on his own.
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"So why did Trump need a bail bondsman if he's a billionaire? Oh right--he expects his followers to pay his legal bills. Trump posted this on Twitter/X to grift. Again," journalist Victoria Brownworth posted on X, formerly Twitter.

"A bail bond is a loan. Trump paid $20,000 (plus possibly other fees). The bail bondsman pays the other $180,000 of Trump's bail. HE COULDN'T PAY HIS OWN BAIL — and relied on debt, like he always does," lawyer Tristan Snell wrote on X.

"People are asking why Trump went through a bail bondsman: BECAUSE HE'S BROKE," wrote another X user.

MSNBC legal analyst Lisa Rubin called the move "unusual" during a Thursday broadcast.
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"It's also unusual for a billionaire to post a bond in cash as he did in the E. Jean Carroll's case instead of getting a commercial insurance company to do it for him, and he couldn't do it there," Rubin said. "It leads you to believe that Donald Trump is either ridiculously cheap—which is his reputation—or he has liquidity problems, which has long been rumored."

Earlier this month, the Associated Press reported that Trump's campaign finances were strained as the former president was dedicating tens of millions of dollars towards his legal defense. An analysis by the news agency found that Trump's political committees paid out at least $59.2 million to over 100 lawyers and law firms since the beginning of 2021.

On his campaign website, Trump asks his supporters for a "contribution to evict Crooked Joe Biden from the White House and SAVE AMERICA." The options available include donations for $24, $47, $100, $250, $500, $1,000, $3,300 and "other."

If found guilty in the Georgia case, Trump could be considered ineligible for re-election in 2024 under the U.S. Constitution. As of August 24, he is polling at 51.6 percent, according to FiveThirtyEight, and led the Republican primary polls by a huge margin, with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis trailing him with 14.8 percent of the vote.
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Bet he also has someone pay for his Happy Meal at McDonald's.
 
W. K. Lis said:
The expected Donald Trump mug shot...

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From link.

Looks similar to this...

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From link.

If you see the man in the top image anywhere, who do you call? Trumpbusters!
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Under the heading that you pretty much can't accept anything online as authentic, there is talk that this is not his actual 'mugshot'. I have no clue how they do things down there but the lighting appears to be from the right side, which would be odd up here. Who knows.
 
lenaitch said:
Under the heading that you pretty much can't accept anything online as authentic, there is talk that this is not his actual 'mugshot'. I have no clue how they do things down there but the lighting appears to be from the right side, which would be odd up here. Who knows.
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Darn. This isn't Donald's White House portrait painting.
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From link.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1698342134066364904

If you go to Etsy, a popular global online marketplace where people buy, sell and make unique items, you can find Trump mugshot T-shirts, sweatshirts, coffee mugs and stickers.

But is this even allowed? Betsy Rosenblatt, a professor at Case Western Reserve University’s School of Law, said there is copyright ownership of mugshots in most jurisdictions.

“You're prohibited from using it for a number of things without authorization,” Rosenblatt said. “You’re prohibited from reproducing it, making a derivative work of it, distributing it without authorization, or that is to say distributing anything that isn't the one copy you already lawfully have, and various other things. Making a public display of it, making a public performance of it, which opens up all kinds of fascinating possibilities here.”

So will the potentially thousands of people who are already using the mugshot to make a profit get in trouble?

Rosenblatt said in order to pursue a claim for copyright infringement, the owner of the copyright, who she said is likely the Fulton County Sheriff's Department, would have to be the one to sue.

“Whether the Fulton County Sheriff's Department would decide to enforce its copyright is entirely up to them,” Rosenblatt said. “But it's also reasonable to think that the Fulton County Sheriff's Office might think, you know, this is a public document, it belongs to the world in a way, [the] copyright belongs to us. But the news about it belongs to the world. And we're not going to undertake the expense and trouble of hiring copyright counsel and sending out takedowns and cease and desist and letters, or in lawsuits.”

She said there are a few cases in recent years that portray how safe or how risky it is to do this sort of thing. In some cases, the court ended up ruling fair use, in others they ruled that the person being sued needed permission from the copyright owner. So, Rosenblatt recommends people seek out legal counsel before releasing a product commercially to ensure they have a strong fair use argument.

“What we're hearing from these various cases is, there's no easy answers to this in terms of how safe it is,” Rosenblatt said. “But it's much safer if you're making significant changes to the image. And if you're making an overt political statement, and it's much less safe, if you're not making changes to the image. And if you're using the image for more or less what the image was already used for, which is to just show that he was arrested and arraigned.”

She also said the First Amendment makes a lot of allowances for things like parody, newsworthiness, commentary and criticism. But even though mugshots are typically part of the public domain, and are sometimes released to the public, many states have relatively complicated laws regarding a person's privacy, so use them at your own risk.
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I think the Dems had better start preparing to contest the Nov 2024 election against someone other than Trump. Could Biden beat Haley, for example?

www.msnbc.com

'Best shot:' Big money donors bet on Nikki Haley to take down Trump

“It is to the benefit of American democracy for there to be a strong faction of the Republican Party committed to defeating Donald Trump,” says Chris Hayes on why it’s a good sign that Nikki Haley is scoring big endorsements.
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