Chowda7
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The 5 Most Expensive Calgary Developments Completed In 2022 https://storeys.com/calgary-developments-most-expensive-construction-2022/
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adamyyc
Active Member
Marda Loop Main Streets Public Information Session Update
Pros:
Pros:
- Traffic Lights at 33/22 & 34/20
- Multi Use Pathways
- Curb Extensions
- Festival Street
- Turning restricted at certain intersections and reestablished turning at other intersections (combined with introduction of new traffic lights) should improve traffic flow and decrease backups of traffic (this will be a double edged sword as it will encourage car travel)
- Construction may force new travel habits in people (maybe people will avoid driving through the neighbourhood after construction is complete)
- Burial of overhead Enmax line on north side of 34
- Potential introduction of 5G (City working with Telus - inclusion in light poles)
- Improved tree canopy (seems like the selection of proposed tree species was thoughtful)
- Construction is only funded for BIA area; Comments from City staff was that the east end (residential area) won’t get funding until the area is rezoned (which will only happen piecemeal and seems to ignore that a significant portion of 33 east of 19 has already been redeveloped or has developments proposed) and that the expectation is that developers will implement much of the Main Streets design in the east end; Reading between the lines, I get the impression that funding will not be available to fully implement the Main Street Master Plan until the next 4-year budget cycle at the earliest (which means 2027 construction at the earliest), and at worst, it never gets implemented
- Multi-use pathway will end at 18; Connection to 14 won’t occur until the next phase of construction (see above)
- Burial of overhead Enmax lines on 34 likely will end at 18 until the next phase of construction (see above)
- Much of the landscaping and streetscaping has been lost/value engineered (due to operating costs to maintain landscaping, objections from roads department, etc.)
- Streetscaping appears to be more generic to Calgary, than unique to Marda Loop
adamyyc
Active Member
It'll be so nice to see those Enmax lines buried, even if it is only to 18th.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
I listened to the presentation last night on and off as I was in the middle of something else so thank you for the summary.
I've mentioned this elsewhere but 34/22 and 34/20 should've been traffic circles with raised crossings (like they did around 34/19). 34/20 especially because traffic tends to come from all directions fairly evenly.
Unfortunately, this means the rendering for Harrison (still on Sarina's website...) will never be. The building sits much higher on the property that this depicts and my hope that pushing the sidewalk to the curb would give us the land scaping and 'wood' features is dead.
Finally, one interesting feature about the section on 33 WB between 19 and 20 is the curb extension for the bus stop.
The 33/22 intersection is improved-ish. Eliminating parking in front of the tin building should help drivers get to Crowchild. It's funny they sell the lack of a turn on to 22 NB as a positive that will help traffic flow; it will, until a driver gets to 21 and 20 where where it will backup because of people turning left to go north on 21 and 20. Moving the backup from the apron off of Crowchild to between 22 and 20, where your retail is. Nothing like idling vehicles in traffic and cars going around left turning vehicles to bring some atmosphere to the area. BUT if the poor moving traffic gets people on a bus or better yet to bike/walk to the area then yay traffic!
I've mentioned this elsewhere but 34/22 and 34/20 should've been traffic circles with raised crossings (like they did around 34/19). 34/20 especially because traffic tends to come from all directions fairly evenly.
For those that don't know, during construction 33 and 34 will become one-way (33 WB and 34 EB). I actually think car travel through the area will improve because of this and reinforce bad travel habits. After construction, the slowdown to single-lane, left/right turning and straight lanes will be quite jarring to drivers looking to go through the area.
Unfortunately, this means the rendering for Harrison (still on Sarina's website...) will never be. The building sits much higher on the property that this depicts and my hope that pushing the sidewalk to the curb would give us the land scaping and 'wood' features is dead.
Finally, one interesting feature about the section on 33 WB between 19 and 20 is the curb extension for the bus stop.
CBBarnett
Senior Member
Thanks for the summary.
The bump-out is great and should be standard for all routes - a bus should never have to wait to merge back into traffic. 1st Street SW added just one of these for Route 6 in the Beltline and it's so much faster than previously for a really simple change. Unfortunately I don't see a bump-out in the EB direction in this diagram above which is disappointing and will result in transit delays.
I do find that mid-block location kind of weird for the bus stop WB - typical best practice is to put the bus stop just after the signal so you aren't forcing the bus to stop potentially twice - at the red light and at the stop - here's an article and study that discusses ideal bus stop locations. Being closer to the intersection makes it easier for passengers to continue in either direction. from their online main street diagram:
I am assuming something made them put the bus stop mid-block instead of the far side - is it just waiting for redevelopment?
Calgcouver
Active Member
I hope they rebrand and add a Triple O's like they often do in BC.
A triple O's in that location would do very well I think.
Joborule
Active Member
Husky on 14 ST / 12 AV also undergoing this transition.
The Familia
Active Member
Sad that another Calgary institution like Huskey is disappearing. Are they all going to be rebranded or will some remain? What about the huge one on Barlow and 32nd Ave with the Huskey House restaurant?
Other Gas stations I miss include Turbo, Domo, Casey Jones, and Fas Gas.
Other Gas stations I miss include Turbo, Domo, Casey Jones, and Fas Gas.
Rollerstud98
Active Member
That Husky House Restaurant is still there but the fuel station is rebranded as Esso for the last 4-5 years already.
I just checked and there are 4 Domos around the city! Never heard of Casey Jones but we still have Fas Gas out here in Airdrie.
The Familia
Active Member
Clearly I haven’t been down Barlow in a long time! Casey Jones was from the late 80’s early 90’s before they closed. Any Turbo’s around still?
Beltline_B
Senior Member
Saw this off of Glenmore Trail. I don’t remember seeing this development on here.
Rollerstud98
Active Member
Shell bought them out and closed/rebranded the Turbo stations. Too bad, I miss Turbo! Lots of my friends worked at the Turbo stations here in Airdrie and we had east side/west side competitions, since back then the city basically ended at the tracks the east and west split was the highway.
Tarsus
Active Member
I don’t remember the name but it’s some sort of seniors home.