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cplchanb said:
Likewise, although there are legitimate concerns at times, the majority of the vocal naysayers I've seen have for the most part been for selfish reasons, such as it doesn't look good (keyword eysore) or they don't want a tiny stream dug up. Is holding up a multi million dollar infrastructure project that is critically needed, can benefit millions and long overdue simply because they personally don't like their construction methods or the aesthetics in itself a selfish act?
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Where are you getting your information?

Metrolinx has no plan to dig up the stream. The stream is already in a culvert that extends further north than the fourth track.

There's no hold-up to the project, nor does the group in question want to hold-up the project. The fourth track isn't planned to be complete for years. All that's happened is that some of the early works of tree clearing has been delayed.

This isn't even the critical path section - which is from Pape to the Don, where they haven't even got a proper design yet, let alone a contractor.
 
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A few photos from the Small's Creek Ravine, taken March 27, 2021:

The Yellow Flowers below are native, and are called Marsh Marigold

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These are the flowers up close:

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This is the rail embankment (also the south elevation/northface of the ravine), trees with ribbons may be subject to removal:

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This little thing, surrounded by orange snow fence is the culvert where the water disappears to go under the tracks:

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I'm standing on top of it here, sorta, they built a wooden cover of sorts over the concrete structure containing the culvert:

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Reaching the tail end of the ravine here:

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There was actually no fence or 'no trespassing sign at the top of the embankment, so I popped up, to take a shot or 2.

This is facing west:

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This is the Zoomed version. The south side of the ravine is below the high fence you see on the left:

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Last shot, this is just of the boardwalk beside the marsh:

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nfitz said:
No fence? Between a public pathway and a pretty fast rail line?
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Nope.

Doubtless there was one at some point, but I didn't walk over one either.

nfitz said:
What's the speed limit through that piece, west of Woodbine?
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No idea, but I did see a VIA train pass about 5 minutes before I got up there, and it was really moving.
 
If one check the rail corridor from end to end, they will find miles of unfence area as well where people have cut it down to get across the tracks.

The only way you can stop ppl access the rail corridor if to have a sound barrier wall 12' high and that one help of a cost doing it. If you are going to get trains up to 200-300 km, you will need those walls.
 
drum118 said:
If one check the rail corridor from end to end, they will find miles of unfence area as well where people have cut it down to get across the tracks.

The only way you can stop ppl access the rail corridor if to have a sound barrier wall 12' high and that one help of a cost doing it. If you are going to get trains up to 200-300 km, you will need those walls.
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In rural areas there are hiking trails that go alongside, or even cross the tracks at grade, with railway permission.

Toronto and the Lakeshore corridor are of course different in terms of frequency, speed and volume of traffic.

In urban areas, where restrictions do make sense, it is critically important to find logical ways for pedestrians/cyclists to cross the tracks on over/underpasses.

In the case of this ravine, if full-height sound barriers were the plan, it would block a lot of the ravine's light; at at that point, I think looking at trusses/bridges would really make more sense, even though it would be costly.
 
Northern Light said:
In rural areas there are hiking trails that go alongside, or even cross the tracks at grade, with railway permission.

Toronto and the Lakeshore corridor are of course different in terms of frequency, speed and volume of traffic.

In urban areas, where restrictions do make sense, it is critically important to find logical ways for pedestrians/cyclists to cross the tracks on over/underpasses.

In the case of this ravine, if full-height sound barriers were the plan, it would block a lot of the ravine's light; at at that point, I think looking at trusses/bridges would really make more sense, even though it would be costly.
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The light will not be block with clear see threw material that is used along the corridor now. Dufferin St and Dupont are 2 location for the see threw.

Having trails and paths beside RR is common in Europe as well a number of places in NA.
 
drum118 said:
If one check the rail corridor from end to end, they will find miles of unfence area as well where people have cut it down to get across the tracks.

The only way you can stop ppl access the rail corridor if to have a sound barrier wall 12' high and that one help of a cost doing it. If you are going to get trains up to 200-300 km, you will need those walls.
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...along with guard towers.


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Some evidence of work in the LSE Corridor, looking west off the Main Street Bridge, on March 29, 2021:

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A gratuitous skyline shot via zoom with a bit of the work zone captured:

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A slightly closer look at the work on the south side of the corridor:

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