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nfitz
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Miller council did put Downtown Relief Line ahead of Yonge Extension.
See the January 27, 2009 Council vote on the Yonge Subway Extension – Environmental Assessment Submission - http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/viewAgendaItemHistory.do?item=2009.EX28.1 It clearly says that "Metrolinx be requested to prioritize the Downtown Relief Line in advance of the Yonge North Extension in order to accommodate capacity issues resulting from the extension of the Yonge Subway." Oddly, Miller himself voted to move it from the 25-year plan to the 15-year plan, but initially against the motion putting it ahead of Yonge - but then voted in favour of the entire item that did put it ahead of Yonge. Either way, it was clearly on his agenda, in a similar timeframe to the Yonge extension.
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Colonel Samuel Smith
New Member
I'm normally a lurker, but I felt compelled to weigh in on the whole TTC vs Metrolinx debate that seemed to be going on here. As a someone who has formerly worked at both organizations, I would have to say that I found the TTC to be overall a better and more professionally run place. That isn't to say there aren't any problems, I would say the top one would be extremely inflexible regulations on how different things had to be done (This problem also exists at Metrolinx). The difference between the types of service offered by each agency is quite immense though so if you must make comparisons on their actual performance, it would be best to compare each with an equivalent system in another city/region.
Admiral Beez
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Out of NY MTO
www.nytimes.com
Maybe he'll come back to Toronto. But fighting with DoFo won't be any easier than Byford's fights with Cuomo.
Andy Byford Resigns as New York City’s Subway Chief (Published 2020)
He arrived two years ago to turn around the city’s failing subway, making significant progress.
Maybe he'll come back to Toronto. But fighting with DoFo won't be any easier than Byford's fights with Cuomo.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Out of NY MTO
Andy Byford Resigns as New York City’s Subway Chief (Published 2020)
He arrived two years ago to turn around the city’s failing subway, making significant progress.
Maybe he'll come back to Toronto. But fighting with DoFo won't be any easier than Byford's fights with Cuomo.
Metrolinx's botched takeover of the TTC subway network would've put Toronto in more or less the same political situation as New York City. The State government effectively runs the system, but they also refuse to take on financial responsibility for the system, hence the toxic relationship between NYC and the state government. New Yorkers will never see any meaningful improvements until the city fully controls the system. The state government clearly does not give a damn about the state of the system.
jje1000
Senior Member
Maybe we could get him onto Metrolinx lol
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Willing to sacrifice a carton of "Deco Labels" to get Andy Byford back to the TTC, or even Metrolinx.
jje1000
Senior Member
Brad Ross, please don't get our hopes up!
Towered
Superstar
It would be great if he could come back. He was by far the best CEO the TTC had in my lifetime. You could actually sense that he was making a difference. The current guy is an absolute useless joke in comparison.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
You're young enough not to know Gunn in the mid-late 90s? I wouldn't say Byford is better - different times with different challenges - but Gunn is certainly influential (SOGR is his thing, and he cleaned up the TTC as an org)
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W. K. Lis
Superstar
Please Andy,...
JasonParis
Moderator
#BBBLOL
"Bring Back Byford, Leery of Leary!"
"Bring Back Byford, Leery of Leary!"
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Someone on Twitter has reported that one possibility is commissioner of TfL (the current one will be departing in May)
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Towered
Superstar
I vaguely recall David Gunn having a very prickly persona who was constantly warring with politicians, and was not an advocate for system expansion, which would make him a poor CEO in my opinion. Or am I thinking of someone else?
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Basically correct. I vaguely recall he refused to show up at the Downsview (now Sheppard West) station opening because it was an umpteen million dollar expansion for which the money could be better spent on SOGR. He wasn’t wrong then - the subway system.was dilapidated and unsafe due to neglected maintenances (Russell Hill happened at the beginning of his tenure). His focus on rectifying these issues over expansion is the correct one.
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