trevorhayden
Active Member
I absolutely loathe hostile design. It makes the place, well...hostile to everyone.
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ChazYEG
Senior Member
I'm not a fan either, but if it makes it overall safer, at least in the short term, then so be it
dkazzed
Active Member
They need housing. Barrier-free housing, in the sense that sobriety is not required. My brother is as conservative as you can get, is already on team Polievre, but he is a psychiatric nurse who does community outreach and says sober housing is among the biggest barriers to sobriety. Having a warm and safe place to call home as well as nutrition gives them the foundation they need to begin to deal with their mental health issues and substance abuse.
Gronk!
Senior Member
I barely even notice them. But then again I keep moving instead of loitering around.
Greenspace
Senior Member
Took the bus and LRT last week for the first time in a while. Was relatively clean and safe, no one loitering at stations. HOWEVER, the LRT entrances/stairs continue to be a huge issue. While there's security in the station and concourses, they can't monitor each stairwell 24/7 and the one I took was full of garbage and people blocking the stairs doing drugs. Very unfortunate given this seems to happen winter and summer.
David A
Senior Member
Yes, I just went through one of the downtown LRT stations and really not much loitering in the main part despite the cold. However the stair wells continue to be a bit problematic.
Glenco
Senior Member
As a senior I find it particularly infuriating when they line both sides of a stair well. I need to have access to a hand rail and they make it difficult if not impossible.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Why has there not been funding to redo all the downtown stations?
Don’t build an extension to twin brooks imo until you fix what we already have. Our downtown entrances should be pristine, beautiful, safe, and accessible.
Trying to add more riders with extensions while letting the central stations deteriorate is counterproductive.
Don’t build an extension to twin brooks imo until you fix what we already have. Our downtown entrances should be pristine, beautiful, safe, and accessible.
Trying to add more riders with extensions while letting the central stations deteriorate is counterproductive.
EdwardEdm
Active Member
The Downtown entrances are fine. It's just that people are allowed to loiter and impede risers. I used the Corona entrance at the SW corner of 108 St and Jasper Ave. It has a long corridor to the station, and while no one was hanging out on the stairs, there were people lining the corridor, and since they were around the corner, security would have to talk a walk to see them. Deterioration has nothing to do with it.
And besides, they have been doing work. Central had a lot of work done on the concourse level 10ish years ago. Central or Churchill 5 years ago or so recieved a new platform ceiling and lighting. Most station entrances for Bay and Corona were just concrete boxes, they have over the years had canopies and doors installed at street level (ironically, that makes them warmer and more desirable for people to hangout on the stairs). Escalators have been replaced, elevators refurbished. I don't feel any of these stations are deteriorating and they are receiving investments.
David A
Senior Member
No, the stations are being maintained. Yes, there can be vandalism, damage and garbage strewn about, but these are people problems not infrastructure problems. And such physical problems are generally fixed relatively quickly.
IanO
Superstar
It's still very, very bad.
The stairs on 104st at Bay are often impassible, full of drug use, needles, meth smoke and blocked from passage.
I've never, ever seen anything like it in my travels.
David A
Senior Member
Maybe I caught it on a better day yesterday, but saw only one questionable person on the stairwell here and he was actually going and not blocking anything. He might have been smoking something, but not sure.
When I have gone generally in the early afternoon, the stairwells haven't been blocked and if anyone is there it is usually only one person or two.
When I have gone generally in the early afternoon, the stairwells haven't been blocked and if anyone is there it is usually only one person or two.
IanO
Superstar
^I would say that it is improving, but still often the case when I go by.
Greenspace
Senior Member
I would say overall it's much much better. However the LRT entrances still are an on-going issue. Peace Officers are attending them regularly but there's so many and a bit of a weird transition space.
IanO
Superstar
Putting the doors at the top for mechanical reasons was a serious mistake.