Northern Light
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As expenses are debated, this was an interesting Q&A:
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W. K. Lis
Superstar
Overtime costs more than regular pay.
Need a TTC guard on streetcar and subway trains, who doesn't have to work the doors if using Automatic Train Control, but actually guard the passengers.
Northern Light
Superstar
I think everyone knows that Walter.
I can't say I agree with this, that would be hideously expensive and I'm not at all clear that it would produce a material benefit.
Northern Light
Superstar
Rookie Councillor Myers giving the cops some sass:
LOL
LOL
W. K. Lis
Superstar
We have two TTC employees on the subway trains without ATC. Having one TTC guard would be half the expense.
Northern Light
Superstar
Right, but the TTC saved money by eliminating that second employee on Line 1 as part of ATC upgrades; the doors are now operated by the drivers.
So what you're advocating for is hiring additional guards, based on what the TTC spends on Special Constables, you're looking at 100k per train, ++ across all trains, all shifts on Line 1; that's several million dollars per year.
I think the TTC would be better off spending this 'manna from heaven' on service.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
ATC (Automatic Train Control) drives the train. Not the driver. With ATC, that person can walk inside the train, as a tour guide, first aid, cleaning (they won't like that), and security.
evandyk
Senior Member
I know Jamaal and like him a lot, and he is going to do a great job. I bet he will be the mayor one day.
Northern Light
Superstar
Interesting theory, but not true.
Here's why:
1) The driver/operator does work the doors. In order to do this from a single point on the train, it requires cameras that allow the operator to properly see the whole length of the train, these are present only in the cabs at the extreme ends of the train, not at intermediate points.
The doors do not operate themselves, and will not, until there are platform edge doors, which we do not have today, and will not, across all of Line 1 for many years.
2) The operator is required to be able to effect a slow-down or emergency stop due to someone being at track level or appearing suicidal. This is particularly important because the TTC has trains enter stations at speed. (I hear the comparison to Vancouver coming, and note that in Vancouver trains come into the station slowly (making them a less likely choice for an attempted suicide.), the TTC cannot adopt this practice without radically reducing Line 1 capacity.
Trains do not have track-level intrusion systems on board.
Platform Edge Doors would again resolve this issue.
So in 10-15 years, if we're lucky, your idea will work; for now, it cannot. The operators cannot leave the cab, at least for any meaningful period.
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concrete_and_light
Active Member
Councillor Bravo has what seems like a pretty reasonable proposal to set up spaces for those that need shelter by not increasing the police budget as significantly and doing a pretty good job dealing with these shocked pikachu councillors.
This podcast is going to be a bit of a headache for arguments for maximal police resources.
Brad Bradford pretending that a somewhat less significant budget increase is "defunding the police" is particularly dishonest. Surely he knows that it's not defunding, but I guess he's decided he's playing for those anti-woke votes now!
So this councillor wants to reduce washroom winterization. Great. I guess she picked that as a thing because only downtown socialists etc. need to go to the washroom and they don't deserve to be able to.
Crawford teetering on the brink of an epiphany that the police don't necessarily make good choices with their resources and have no accountability...
Nice to have some councillors who challenge things, don't take the nonsense, and who push forward meaningful proposals to help.
This podcast is going to be a bit of a headache for arguments for maximal police resources.
Brad Bradford pretending that a somewhat less significant budget increase is "defunding the police" is particularly dishonest. Surely he knows that it's not defunding, but I guess he's decided he's playing for those anti-woke votes now!
So this councillor wants to reduce washroom winterization. Great. I guess she picked that as a thing because only downtown socialists etc. need to go to the washroom and they don't deserve to be able to.
Crawford teetering on the brink of an epiphany that the police don't necessarily make good choices with their resources and have no accountability...
Nice to have some councillors who challenge things, don't take the nonsense, and who push forward meaningful proposals to help.
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concrete_and_light
Active Member
I've had some frustration with Perks as the years have gone on, but wow is this ever straight facts and well expressed:
Elsewhere Holyday, who our extremely full of good judgement Mayor thought was deserving of being a Deputy Mayor, is continuing his mission to be the worst possible person — money for warming centres isn't appropriate, but he wants to bring back $1.6 million for leaf collection by reducing transportation safety.
Elsewhere Holyday, who our extremely full of good judgement Mayor thought was deserving of being a Deputy Mayor, is continuing his mission to be the worst possible person — money for warming centres isn't appropriate, but he wants to bring back $1.6 million for leaf collection by reducing transportation safety.
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evandyk
Senior Member
Gord Perks says a few good things, but has generally spent his career against letting more people live in neighbourhoods like Parkdale and High Park, which have been emptying out over the last 50 years.
concrete_and_light
Active Member
Fully agreed, that along with his absolute negligence on road safety infrastructure are my two big issues with him, but his message above is still appreciated at this time and true.
Northern Light
Superstar
Ok, let's see what passed here:
The Warming Centre is only through April 15th.
Bravo's motion to re-allocated 900k from the Billion + police budget lost.
Matlow's motion to shift 200k in capital budget funding to anti-renoviction funding loses
Oh, @DSC will like this one (so do I)
Ok, this is rather a shame, the only and only Holyday motion I can ever remember supporting also lost, LOL:
There are no vetoes being applied so that's it, the budget is passed, as amended.
The TTC service cuts intact. Sigh.
The Warming Centre is only through April 15th.
Bravo's motion to re-allocated 900k from the Billion + police budget lost.
Matlow's motion to shift 200k in capital budget funding to anti-renoviction funding loses
Oh, @DSC will like this one (so do I)
Ok, this is rather a shame, the only and only Holyday motion I can ever remember supporting also lost, LOL:
There are no vetoes being applied so that's it, the budget is passed, as amended.
The TTC service cuts intact. Sigh.
ShonTron
Moderator
Brad Bradbrad came across as snake tonight, a miserable wretch in the style of Holyday or Minnan-Wong.
God I hope Beaches-East York turns on him.
God I hope Beaches-East York turns on him.