[EagleEye]

Interesting to contrast your experience voting w/that of @Richard White



Which experience will end up being more representative?

Wonder what explains the difference (time of day, location etc)

And, whether that is indicative for any particular candidate of their vote coming out (or not)

I ran into 2 neighbours and all 3 of us voted for Suman Roy. Not indicative of anything, of course. I think I got there just before 11. The woman who took my card said it was a wonderful day for democracy and she was smiling from ear to ear because of the volume of people since 10 am. I really hope the numbers will be better than expected. I think a lot of people on various Facebook pages are really pissed off at Ghous for taking a leave of absence from the trustee job she was elected for last year. Add in that Crawford was highly unpopular here so maybe people are just excited about change.

 

[Richard White]

Add in that Crawford was highly unpopular here so maybe people are just excited about change.

Sudip Shome is publicly endorsed by Gary Crawford.

If what you're saying is true it may backfire.

 

[DSC]

News Release

November 27, 2023

Advance vote turnout for the Ward 20, Scarborough Southwest by-election

A total of 4,374 eligible electors voted during the advance vote weekend on November 25 and 26 for the Ward 20, Scarborough Southwest by-election for Councillor.

The following is a breakdown of the advance vote turnout:

• Saturday, November 25: 2,181

• Sunday, November 26: 2,193

 

[Richard White]

News Release

November 27, 2023

Advance vote turnout for the Ward 20, Scarborough Southwest by-election

A total of 4,374 eligible electors voted during the advance vote weekend on November 25 and 26 for the Ward 20, Scarborough Southwest by-election for Councillor.

The following is a breakdown of the advance vote turnout:

• Saturday, November 25: 2,181

• Sunday, November 26: 2,193

That turnout is pretty grim.

I am expecting a 10-20% voter turnout.

 

[Blovertis]

So let me get this straight. In a single move, Chow just threw under the bus: (i) people who wanted to save Ontario Place. and (ii) people who wanted to tear down the eastern Gardner and free up land for redevelopment.

Don't blame me, I voted for Matlow

 

[Richard White]

So let me get this straight. In a single move, Chow just threw under the bus: (i) people who wanted to save Ontario Place. and (ii) people who wanted to tear down the eastern Gardner and free up land for redevelopment.

Don't blame me, I voted for Matlow

Huh?

 

[voilan]

Deal struck involving DVP+Gardiner upload and provincial gaining authority over Ontario Place; includes additional funding for transit from province as well: https://globalnews.ca/news/10116918/ontario-toronto-new-deal-doug-ford-olivia-chow/

 

[Blovertis]

Huh?

Toronto and Ontario agree to new deal, including DVP, Gardiner and Ontario Place | Globalnews.ca

The deal will also include money for transit and refugees, while the city will redouble its efforts to build housing and transit-oriented communities.

globalnews.ca

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Though honestly the ability of the city to tie up OP redevelopment is always weak; and in all it isn't a terrible trade, especially with additional TTC funding.

AoD

 

[Richard White]

Though honestly the ability of the city to tie up OP redevelopment is always weak; and in all it isn't a terrible trade, especially with additional TTC funding.

AoD

Agreed. Taking the DVP and Gardiner off the hands of the City is also not a bad thing.

I consider this a win overall.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Agreed. Taking the DVP and Gardiner off the hands of the City is also not a bad thing.

I consider this a win overall.

Well in the ideal world it is bad because it removes the power of the city to do anything with them; but at the same time, the city isn't doing anything with them, so...

AoD

 

[Northern Light]

Toronto and Ontario agree to new deal, including DVP, Gardiner and Ontario Place | Globalnews.ca

The deal will also include money for transit and refugees, while the city will redouble its efforts to build housing and transit-oriented communities.

globalnews.ca

Let's have a look at the elements in the deal, as per the piece linked:

So capital funds for new Line 2 Trains

Plus operating funds; and some sort of stop-gap fund until ridership returns to pre-pandemic levels.

 

[Richard White]

Well in the ideal world it is bad because it removes the power of the city to do anything with them; but at the same time, the city isn't doing anything with them, so...

AoD

That's true but given the state of the Gardiner and the level of upkeep on the DVP it is one less thing we need to pay for.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Let's have a look at the elements in the deal, as per the piece linked:

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So capital funds for new Line 2 Trains

Plus operating funds; and some sort of stop-gap fund until ridership returns to pre-pandemic levels.

Which also explains why the new trains were back on the TTC agenda suddenly.

AoD

 

[Blovertis]

Though honestly the ability of the city to tie up OP redevelopment is always weak; and in all it isn't a terrible trade, especially with additional TTC funding.

AoD

People voted for Chow expecting her to do something to stop the Therme deal and by extension the relocation of the Ontario Science Centre.

She didn't even try.

And the uploading of the costs associated with maintaining the eastern Gardner is a "win" only if one pretends there wasn't another option: tearing it down altogether.