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Admiral Beez said:
Lol. I've come to the realization that we live in a lawless city, and that only our human sensibilities and affinity for order keep us from creating mayhem.
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Civilization is built on norms. It is impossible to have enforcement be the primary means of driving behaviour. Shame is much more powerful.
 
afransen said:
Civilization is built on norms. It is impossible to have enforcement be the primary means of driving behaviour. Shame is much more powerful.
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The problem is, driving in this city is such a slog now, and people are watching others break the rules, and instead of facing consequences, get rewarded for it by getting ahead. This normalizes the behaviour, and its "the norm" now to not stop at stop signs, drive up onto the crosswalk while waiting for the light to turn green, drive in the opposite lane to get to the left turn lane, turn left immediately when you get the green with cars driving in the opposite direction, and many more. How do you change the norm without enforcement?
 
Looks like Mayor Chow is trying to make nice with Ford Nation. Maybe giving treats to get something in return.

Mayor Olivia Chow backs plan to rename Etobicoke stadium after Rob Ford​

From https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/mayor-olivia-chow-backs-plan-to-rename-etobicoke-stadium-after-rob-ford/article_320f7f64-95d7-11ee-bb6f-a7daf54522a2.html

A motion going to council next week proposes naming Etobicoke's Centennial Park stadium after the late Rob Ford.

Two city councillors are asking their colleagues to rename an Etobicoke stadium after the man who presided over the most scandal-plagued mayoralty in Toronto's modern history. And the idea has the current mayor's support.

A motion added to the agenda of next week's council meeting proposes renaming the stadium at Centennial Park after the late Rob Ford.

The member's motion was proposed by Paul Ainslie (Scarborough-Guildwood) and seconded by Shelley Carroll (Don Valley North). A spokesperson for Mayor Olivia Chow said she will back the plan.

The motion states that the city has historically honoured its former mayors, and cites Mel Lastman Square and Barbara Hall Park as examples. As Centennial Park undergoes upgrades, it is the "appropriate" time "to consider renaming the Centennial Park Stadium the 'Rob Ford Stadium' in recognition of his decade and a half of public service," the motion reads.

"All of those who served with Rob Ford on Council knew that he had two passions – representing his constituents not only across the city but in particular in his home community of Etobicoke, and football."

Ford, the brother of Premier Doug Ford, served on council for more than 15 years. He died of cancer in 2016, at the age of 46.

Early in his political career he gained a loyal following by helping constituents with everyday problems and opposing tax increases at city hall, and he won the 2010 mayoral election handily.

What followed were four tumultuous years during which Ford made international headlines for being filmed smoking crack cocaine, was briefly removed from office for breaking council rules only to be reinstated on a technicality, and was stripped of most of his powers by city council.
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Many of his supporters in "Ford Nation" remained loyal to the former mayor throughout his troubles, however.

As a member's motion, Ainslie's proposal will require the votes of two-thirds of councillors to be considered at next week's council meeting. If it fails to get that support, it will be referred to Etobicoke York Community Council.
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They tried renaming it in 2017, but failed. Trying again...

https://www.gh360.ca/?p=717

Date November 8, 2017...

Following a vote by city council the late Rob Ford will not have Centennial Park Stadium in Etobicoke named after him.

The Ford family’s request was denied after a 24-11 vote by city council against renaming the stadium Rob Ford Memorial Park.

Doug Ford initially put forth the suggestion to rename the stadium in his brother’s honour. Michael Ford, who represents Ward 2 Etobicoke North, was “disgusted” by city council’s vote. Doug Ford added that “this was not a surprise.” He said he knew the councillors would vote personal, rather than political.

Councillors who were in favour of renaming the stadium included Mayor John Tory, Ward 3 Councillor Stephen Holyday, Ward 1 Councillor Vincent Crisanti and Ward 38 Councillor Glenn De Baeremaeker.
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goreckm said:
How do you change the norm without enforcement?
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Actually the fastest way to change the norm is to omit enforcement. Think about it, one chap decides to squat in a public park, sets up his tent and then other likeminded folks, seeing zero enforcement of the clear bylaws against camping in parks, set up camp as well. And in a flash, you have forty or more tents, and the norm today is to let it be.
Mount Dennis Resident said:
Looks like Mayor Chow is trying to make nice with Ford Nation. Maybe giving treats to get something in return.

Mayor Olivia Chow backs plan to rename Etobicoke stadium after Rob Ford​


They tried renaming it in 2017, but failed. Trying again...
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The Gravy Bowl.
 
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