Oh man, I've never felt so conservative in my life, and I've always been on the left: Stop trying to solve social, infrastructure, and other problems in society by taking more money away from people. If we can't build the world we want with the current resources available, we're done. There is NO reason to put tolls on existing highways. Put them on NEW highways and charge gold-plated tolls to pay for transit and other social goods. Even I would pay an outrageous amount of money once in a while to drive in a tunnel under the city. In order to successfully co-exist in this crowded world, we're going to have to build down as well as up. I say extend the Allen south to the Gardiner in a toll tunnel; continue the tunnel east under Richmond and Adelaide to the DVP. Either include the DRL in the tunnels or just use the tolls to fund the DRL under Queen. Done. That's two thirds of the DRL paid for and faster better underground highway connections that speed up traffic flows, get people home sooner, and improve quality of life. Boston is amazing in this regard, such a smart city. I can drive in and out of downtown Boston quickly and discretely, and I can take subways everywhere, even to an island airport. You have to pay to play, but let's do it without fleecing drivers on the current road network. Keep the tolls off of the (existing) Gardiner and DVP. Over time, based on an evolution of values, we'll be able to remove the existing Gardiner and reimagine Lakeshore Blvd. We would still have to offload the Gardiner in the west, so I would keep that offloading from the Gardiner into the city grid free, so that you can enter the city without paying tolls, but you can toll drivers who drive through it. Essentially you're taxing people who try to bypass the city. Most people who use these highways just use them to get in and out of the city anyway. And please stop painting the idea of tolling the existing highways as a cost that only affects outsiders. Torontonians pay the price for this as their options become more limited. If they want to go outside the city they live in for work or play, they're going to have to pay a lot more. That's not fair. People need those retreats to nature. We don't really have a Central Park, and even Manhattaners go to the local islands for retreats. Don't add to the cost of living in this city, or else it will be a price that only the rich can pay.