C_Johnson_1995
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If this closes down, Huron Central is done. It won't be able to recover from this loss of traffic. The announced investment would be for nothing unfortunately if this happens.
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"To satisfy the merger guidelines, Domtar agreed to sell its Dryden pulp mill and Thunder Bay pulp and paper mill in northwestern Ontario once it purchases Resolute."
If this closes down, Huron Central is done. It won't be able to recover from this loss of traffic. It seems like the announced investment was for nothing unfortunately.
In terms of winter railroading, that's some pretty tame images. If that went viral, social media is more boring than I thought.ONR railway snow removal video goes viral (VIDEO)
'The snow clearing ensures goods are shipped across the province safely, reliably and on-time'www.baytoday.ca
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At least in that location, there are alternative routes, provided you can bail before getting caught in the backup.I realize it won't accomodate everyone who uses 400/11 but for some trips it'll be nice to have an alternative.
Crash on Hwy 11 in Bracebridge causes 12-vehicle pileup
More than 12 vehicles were involved in a pileup on Highway 11 in Bracebridge Wednesday, sending one person to hospital with minor injuries.barrie.ctvnews.ca
At least in that location, there are alternative routes, provided you can bail before getting caught in the backup.
It will be great; Highway 11 is so bad that I'll take any decline in traffic on itI realize it won't accomodate everyone who uses 400/11 but for some trips it'll be nice to have an alternative.
Crash on Hwy 11 in Bracebridge causes 12-vehicle pileup
More than 12 vehicles were involved in a pileup on Highway 11 in Bracebridge Wednesday, sending one person to hospital with minor injuries.barrie.ctvnews.ca
Between north of South River and Sundridge there is Hwy 124 (old Hwy 11). Beyond that it's a collection of assorted back roads that your GPS might be a able to stitch together - for a while. That or head over to Hwy 69. South of Huntsville the option get better.South of North Bay, it is easy to bypass an accident on Highway 11.
Look up the 500 and 600 series highways in the area between South River and North Bay. Not hard to figure a route regardless of time of year.Between north of South River and Sundridge there is Hwy 124 (old Hwy 11). Beyond that it's a collection of assorted back roads that your GPS might be a able to stitch together - for a while. That or head over to Hwy 69.
Ya got me. I've driven them in the summer. Hard to imagine how much fun they'd be in the winter, especially for large vehicles. Typically, closures on 69 or 11 that offer 511-posted detours usually shoot traffic right across to the other route via 124 or 522. I don't know if the OPP/MTO use certain parameters of highway condition or alignment. Sometime they will post dotour routes for "light vehicles only".Look up the 500 and 600 series highways in the area between South River and North Bay. Not hard to figure a route regardless of time of year.
The section between Marten River and Cobalt is where it gets tough.
69 north of Parry Sound is bad for detours. 11 is not so bad. Those secondary highways can take trucks if needed.Ya got me. I've driven them in the summer. Hard to imagine how much fun they'd be in the winter, especially for large vehicles. Typically, closures on 69 or 11 that offer 511-posted detours usually shoot traffic right across to the other route via 124 or 522. I don't know if the OPP/MTO use certain parameters of highway condition or alignment. Sometime they will post dotour routes for "light vehicles only".
We seem to be having an off-topic discussion that probably nobody cares about. The bottom half of 654 is pretty dodgy. Factors such as curves, shoulders (or lack of), sightlines and grade transitions aren't great (but fun on a motorcycle). Of course, a transport could travel these secondary highways; in any kind of volume and during the winter might be another thing. Another factor might be the quality of rig drivers these days, some of whom seem to have trouble on primary highways.69 north of Parry Sound is bad for detours. 11 is not so bad. Those secondary highways can take trucks if needed.
I lived in the north for a lot of years and have driven Hwy 11 often in the winter. Choices are limited the further north you go, particularly in lousy weather -- which of course is generally when the highway is closed! If something happens north of Marten River, depending on your final destination, you're going via Quebec or Sturgeon Falls and then cutting back over through Verner/Field. When the bridge was out at Latchford for months, a 2 1/2 hr drive to Sudbury doubled (or even the 1 1/2 hrs to North Bay)Ya got me. I've driven them in the summer. Hard to imagine how much fun they'd be in the winter, especially for large vehicles. Typically, closures on 69 or 11 that offer 511-posted detours usually shoot traffic right across to the other route via 124 or 522. I don't know if the OPP/MTO use certain parameters of highway condition or alignment. Sometime they will post dotour routes for "light vehicles only".
Yup. The north can be dodgey for alternatives. Weather can be a big factor but a lot of collisions can do the same. Both 17 and 11 have been closed due to weather several times this winter, as well as a lot of the cross-linking routes such as 101 through Chapleau and 631 through Hornpayne.I lived in the north for a lot of years and have driven Hwy 11 often in the winter. Choices are limited the further north you go, particularly in lousy weather -- which of course is generally when the highway is closed! If something happens north of Marten River, depending on your final destination, you're going via Quebec or Sturgeon Falls and then cutting back over through Verner/Field. When the bridge was out at Latchford for months, a 2 1/2 hr drive to Sudbury doubled (or even the 1 1/2 hrs to North Bay)