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casita said:
I'm certainly no expert, Alvin. Just my personal opinion.

Live your life, do your work, as simple as that.

But, I understand that the reality for many is not that simple.
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For the record, I don't mean "breaking" in a pejoratively sense.

Pickles:

I agree - and at the core, he is unsuited for the job whether he is genuinely in the process of changing or not.

AoD
 
ThoughtArcade said:
There are definitely parallels. The principal difference being that Basic Training wants to achieve a kind of group synergy. Caritas (or long-term rehab) just wants to strip away false pride and replace it with something a bit more real.
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There was a story about one recruit. They sent him to the army psychiatrist: "Do you think you can kill?" He replied, "I don't know about strangers, but friends, yes." :D
 
Pickles said:
Recent posts have described Ford as "nice guy", "vulnerable", "motivated" in rehab, generous in lending his car to McRobb who smashed hers (in a drunken stupor?). It's been suggested that Ford might even get a post-rehab bump in the polls.

I just want to remind us all that Rob Ford, the nice guy, offered to let two violent criminals fu*k his wife; vulnerable Rob Ford threatened a security guard at City Hall who was doing his job, gave the finger to a woman and child, while driving, called a cab driver "a Paki", etc., etc.; motivated-in-rehab Rob Ford was reported by the Star as spotted on Sunday in Gravehurst outside the Marriott Hotel in suspicious circumstances that might be drug related; generous Rob Ford has no valid reason to have had his escalade brought to rehab, given his only outings are allegedly weekly escorted excursions to AA meetings.

Don't go getting all soft on this guy. He's a prime manipulator and, until he is held strictly accountable for his behaviour -- without any supportive pscho-babble from enablers and would-be rescuers -- he hasn't a chance of getting clean and sober.
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I don't think anyone here will disagree or has forgotten. If there's anyone on UT who thinks Ford should be mayor or unaccountable, they are laying pretty low.
 
Jimmi T said:
Not being soft on him. I'm just saying I can see how some could be tricked into thinking he's a nice guy when they briefly meet him. But he's definitely shady as fuck! He's friends found a reporter's home and threatened his kids. You think they did that without his knowledge?
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For real. I don't think any of us are saying he's truly nice. Just how he's perceived, since we still live in the midst of this nightmare.
 
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casita said:
^ The shocking thing is that it's still so freaking cold for this time of year!
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Yup. I was in Huntsville for the long weekend and had the fireplace and woollies on almost the whole time.

And Ford doesn't look like he's lost a pound to me.
 
whatthe said:
Yup. I was in Huntsville for the long weekend and had the fireplace and woollies on almost the whole time.

And Ford doesn't look like he's lost a pound to me.
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It's kinda funny seeing Rob walk. I've never pictured him as much of a pedestrian.
 
Security.

I don't know if there are any security experts on here, but I see on the news that the high level provincial candidates all seem to have security details. ( Plain-clothes OPP? )

I wonder why that is not the case in TO?
 
I wish they hadn't published that photo. It will just play into the Ford narrative of the media staking out his rehab and endangering the other patients. (Though obviously he brought it on himself with all the selfies.)
 
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