Urban_Enthusiast86
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I should be more specific. Rob Ford and supporters are trying to classify Transit City as being nothing but "streetcars". Would this be at all accurate?
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I should be more specific. Rob Ford and supporters are trying to classify Transit City as being nothing but "streetcars". Would this be at all accurate?
Yes it is acurate. It's the same street cars that will be used on queen/king/spadina etc. It shaves 6 minutes.... from the original bus route on the scarborough line.
Transit city seems to be only liked by those that are not actually going to use it.
I still haven't heard from ONE Transit city supporter that will actually have to take it on a regular basis (i.e. lives near the sheppered line)
I should be more specific. Rob Ford and supporters are trying to classify Transit City as being nothing but "streetcars". Would this be at all accurate?
No, this is not accurate. While they will use new LRVs, the differences from the downtown mixed traffic ones are:
1.they will allow for all door loading (enter at any of the 3 doors)
2.they will run in their owndedicated Right Of Way (eglinton runs underground for 12 km in city center).
3.the stops will be spaced further apart
4. Left hand turning restrictions on many intersections for cars
Anyone who is saying these are the same as the queen car is either dense, has an agenda or just plain ol can't read.
I'm going to give Rob Ford the benefit of the doubt and say it's probably the bolded. It's unfortunate when politicians pull ploys like this. I'd have more respect for his position if he didn't have to lie (or at least be intellectually dishonest) to make his point.
Ford may try to keep expenses down, however, he cannot control outside prices. Be it the price of road salt, fuel, asphalt, concrete, electricity, insurance, etc. Would he pass those prices down? Or would he have go into deficit to absorb outside price increases? Remember, 2008, when the price of asphalt doubled until the recession hit.
If Rob Ford is elected tomorrow, I'm going to have an immediate concern for WaterfrontToronto (particularly the Queens Quay redevelopment), the Nathan Philips Square revitalization and the Eglinton Crosstown project.
I'm going to work with my councillor to fight against the Ford administration to ensure these move forward as planned.
People who walk are scum?We don't walk, we run you over.
Better still, force everyone walking and biking into the PATH so we don't even have to see the scum.
... yet you seem to partake of the same kind of hyperbole.
At the end of the day one extra set of doors and 'restrictions' on turning left don't make for all that different of a transit reality than good ol' Queen Street streetcars. The right of way is different to some existing streetcar routes, granted, but still poses several real concerns, i.e. taking up a lane of traffic, coming to a stop at interstections, problems with left turns etc. We've already seen this on St. Clair.
People haven't waited all this time and do not want to spend all this money on second rate solutions that will prove inadequate in the long run. Most people realize that the time for a basic subway network has come, eventually to be complimented by further streetcar lines. This is not a single-modal solution situation. Pretty obvious really.