tkip
Active Member
And I was pointing out that this thread is about Ford's vision and performance as mayor. So let's keep it on topic and avoid the mud slinging that's immature at best.
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The council is not made to bicker with the Mayor.
Hes the mayor, he should be able to do that.
Transit City was not a viable plan seeing as the traffic in toronto streets is increasingly worse and lrt systems on the street would only cause more clutter with three cars blocking an intersection on a left turn rather than one.
The Portlands are being developed in a far better manor than private residential properties that Waterfront Toronto had planned littered with a few small parks here and there with little public access. The city council may not have back bones (idk?) but they definately have common sense seeing as Rob Ford plans are whats best for the city and voting him out next term would make it worse because then a new mayor would scrap his plans and pick new ones all over again.
Everyone seems to focus on present rather than the future of toronto. [...] What is enough now would be insifficient in a few years.
Do we need to scrap the light rail transit in a few years and start building subway?
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I think people hate Rob Ford because he is different, not because of his vision.
He's Vice Chair for Build Toronto - the organization tasked with, you know, getting things built.Why is Doug Ford (councilor for Ward 2 Etobicoke North) doing the announcements, proposals, or whatever for something happening in Ward 30 (Paula Fletcher's Toronto-Danforth, which includes the Portlands)? He isn't mayor, though he does act like one!
He's Vice Chair for Build Toronto - the organization tasked with, you know, getting things built.
Considering that Giambrone has been accused of coming up with the basics of Transit City sitting in a coffee shop with a marker and a napkin, the expertise that went into Transit City may not have been too far off from the expertise that went into killing it. Not to mention that when Transit City was unveiled in 2007, it surprised almost everyone due to its rejection of previous TTC grand visions which concentrated mostly on subways. It obviously didn't hurt Ford at all to campaign for the rejection of a three year old plan in favour of ideas that were around for decades, even though he subsequently had to compromise on Eglinton, and even if Sheppard is a pie-in-the-sky scheme.You're right -- I'm sure that Rob and Doug have thought far more deeply about Transit City than the scores of professional transit planners who developed it, and I'm certain that the Fords carefully worked out all on their own the ridership projections for the various corridors and costs across a multi-decade time frame, with special attention paid to changes in population density and traffic patterns. Honestly, how could the various experts been so blind to something so obvious to the Fords?
If you want to harp about Woodbine Live, then Rob Ford or Kyle Rae or Suzan Hall should be your targets. That project stalled 2 years before Doug even threw his name into the ring to become a councilor.How is Woodbine Live going. This sounds like the kind of project Doug Ford wants ... and it's in his ward. Doesn't seem to have been a new press release in over 2 years - http://www.woodbinelive.com
True. Both, really. They didn't put 'build' in the name for kicks - the idea is to take city properties and make something of them.No, it's tasked with preparing properties for sale.
If you want to harp about Woodbine Live, then Rob Ford or Kyle Rae or Suzan Hall should be your targets.
I'm not that familiar with how the project is going. Rob Ford was taking credit for it during the election ... so I don't see how ancient history has any bearing. What is status now? Presumably with with 2 Fords running the show, it will be moving quickly.If you want to harp about Woodbine Live, then Rob Ford or Kyle Rae or Suzan Hall should be your targets. That project stalled 2 years before Doug even threw his name into the ring to become a councilor.
Considering that Giambrone has been accused of coming up with the basics of Transit City sitting in a coffee shop with a marker and a napkin, the expertise that went into Transit City may not have been too far off from the expertise that went into killing it. Not to mention that when Transit City was unveiled in 2007, it surprised almost everyone due to its rejection of previous TTC grand visions which concentrated mostly on subways. It obviously didn't hurt Ford at all to campaign for the rejection of a three year old plan in favour of ideas that were around for decades, even though he subsequently had to compromise on Eglinton, and even if Sheppard is a pie-in-the-sky scheme.
As for the professional transit planners at the TTC, they have to go along for the ride no matter who's in charge. I seriously doubt they were all privately in favour of Transit City, or are all gung-ho for Ford's current ideas.