[eyewonder]

He's not talking a few days.

They dug a hole up in front of my house 4 months ago. Just a big ol hole in the middle of a busy street (with streetcar) and there she sits. 20 feet deep, empty and untouched in months. The entire block lost a lane of traffic. MONTHS!

 

[eyewonder]

Rub flub fix my hole!

 

[jje1000]

Actually I find it interesting how restrained this highly speculative and sometimes offensive forum has been about the fact that many if not most of Ford's associates have Italian last names.

The elephant in the room, but the fact of a potential connection(witting/unwitting) to the mafia is still present.

 

[sno man]

I'd love to see a marijuana-leaf version of this logo

something like this?

 

[JWBF]

Actually I find it interesting how restrained this highly speculative and sometimes offensive forum has been about the fact that many if not most of Ford's associates have Italian last names.

You don't know the area from the seventies & eighties. The area is one of the areas that alot of Italians, and others moved to from the Kensington Market or Little Italy areas.

 

[rightwingSUVdriver]

The elephant in the room, but the fact of a potential connection(witting/unwitting) to the mafia is still present.

Problems:
1. there are many, many Italians in Toronto, 99.999% of whom are presumably not in the mafia, so you can't jump to conclusions based on surnames
2. the mafia seems like a relic of another time, even if it isn't, so people don't think about it
3. the mafia is supposedly well-established in Toronto but it's virtually invisible, and it's difficult to discuss something whose boundaries and scale are unknown. Out of sight, out of mind.

 

[iClaudiusII]

Rub flub fix my hole!

Was it City Work or a Private Utility?

 

[CalgarianExOntarian]

Problems:
1. there are many, many Italians in Toronto, 99.999% of whom are presumably not in the mafia, so you can't jump to conclusions based on surnames

This.

It is at best horribly lazy to try to connect dots based on ancestry. [sarcasm]Two or more players in the story are from, or have parents, grandparents, whatever, from Italy, Somalia, etc., and we all know that's a tight-knit group, so obviously they're conspiring.[/sarcasm]

All my (known) ancestors are from Britain and Ireland. Those people, along with the French, were in charge of most of the major screwups in Canadian history, [sarcasm]so obviously national ancestry is the main reason why the Fords are so awful. I am having a hard time dealing with the shame on my race.[/sarcasm]

 

[waterloowarrior]

 

[content]

Problems:
1. there are many, many Italians in Toronto, 99.999% of whom are presumably not in the mafia, so you can't jump to conclusions based on surnames
2. the mafia seems like a relic of another time, even if it isn't, so people don't think about it
3. the mafia is supposedly well-established in Toronto but it's virtually invisible, and it's difficult to discuss something whose boundaries and scale are unknown. Out of sight, out of mind.

#1 is a non-issue. #2 is a byproduct of #3.

Why is it difficult to discuss? My own quick glance at that donor list has names that I could easily correlate to articles such as...

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/09/24/a-new-mafia-crime-families-ruling-toronto-italy-alleges/

http://www.thestar.com/news/2007/06/01/terry_koumoudouros_67_strip_club_owner.html (not an Italian name - I apologize for straying into other nationalities)

http://www.m-f-d.org/pdf/wheres_the_loot.pdf

Face the elephant. It's good for Toronto.

 

[Kat_YYZ]

Haha, Ford at the Grand, 200 metres from George Street. Too funny.

 

[penelope_sch]

Interesting - so he stayed at the Grand Hotel on Jarvis for a few days after a domestic call at his house.

Here is a link to an article from 2008 referencing that area called 'crack central', just behind this hotel, where he was seen 'accepting something from a man on foot' while in his truck.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2008/08/03/woman_found_dead_in_crack_central.html?app=noRedirect

 

[Sweet Mister]

Not just crack central but hooker central too. I used to rent an office near there. That's a really, really sketchy area (or at least it was in the mid 2000s -- maybe it's gone up a little?)

 

[the lemur]

A teacher, on a bicycle. That's like a downtown elite out of central casting.

 

[the lemur]

Haha, Ford at the Grand, 200 metres from George Street. Too funny.

And why go all the way downtown if you're going to move out of your Etobicoke home for a few days? Just to be closer to that Sunnybrook barbecue?