denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
I want to see a complete rezoning of this area when the subway goes under construction.
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Has this ever progressed to a "project" stage? Afaik this is merely speculation driven by campaign promises. There was never a serious metrolinx directive to initiate EAs or even business case studies since as far back as I can rememberThe silence on this project is deafening.
Has this ever progressed to a "project" stage? Afaik this is merely speculation driven by campaign promises. There was never a serious metrolinx directive to initiate EAs or even business case studies since as far back as I can remember
No.
Much as our discussion in other subway expansion threads, the issue here is cost, and realism etc.
No matter one's preferences on mode for various projects, this one would come in at #4 at best (behind OL/RL, Yonge North, and Line2/SSE) and probably behind Eglinton West to the Airport)
As such, it should more than likely be dropped from even the 20-year plans; and if retained at all, it should be only eastward to VP for which there is a business case given the large employment and residential node.
Anything east of that is 30 years in the offing.
This was the plan pre sheppard lrt. there are some files from the early 2000s floating about out there.Has this ever progressed to a "project" stage? Afaik this is merely speculation driven by campaign promises. There was never a serious metrolinx directive to initiate EAs or even business case studies since as far back as I can remember
A conversion for sheppard would cost more than the line cost to built. It'll be redundant when RLL is built anyways. Keep the line as is and wait until we figure out what they're going to do with Relief Line North.I hope after Eglinton opens people will warm to the idea of subway to lrt conversion. Or if the Ontario line uses a new tech then I am ok with a conversion to that as well. The subway never made sense and someone needs to somehow fix the mess vs just letting it sit and or throwing more money at it using the same tech creating future expansion problems.
This will be the next target after the Bloor Danforth extension is built. Or even during it. This might be built if only to stop the complaints. We need to move past Scarborough at some point.A conversion for sheppard would cost more than the line cost to built. It'll be redundant when RLL is built anyways. Keep the line as is and wait until we figure out what they're going to do with Relief Line North.
At $1 billion a kilometre (the projected cost of the now-defunct DRL, so a reasonable estimate) how can you possibly justify the cost of tunnelled traditional subways in low-density areas? How on earth would this lunacy be financed exactly, and by whom?This will be the next target after the Bloor Danforth extension is built. Or even during it. This might be built if only to stop the complaints. We need to move past Scarborough at some point.
Sheppard is projected to be closer to 300-500 m/km. The DRL runs through downtown and has more stations/km, so it's obviously going to be far more expensive.At $1 billion a kilometre (the projected cost of the now-defunct DRL, so a reasonable estimate) how can you possibly justify the cost of tunnelled traditional subways in low-density areas? How on earth would this lunacy be financed exactly, and by whom?
The conversion to lrt or rt technology would be costly but the cheaper cost of surface/elevated expansion would make up the cost the further it's extended. I thought people wanted transit to the zoo.Sheppard is projected to be closer to 300-500 m/km. The DRL runs through downtown and has more stations/km, so it's obviously going to be far more expensive.
But if the relief line north is built up to Sheppard (which it will have to be), then you can keep the subway as is (or extend it to wherever the new terminus will be) and build light rail east of the DRL north terminus. Why spend an extra 1-2 billion dollars converting something when we don't even know how transit will be built in the area in the future?The conversion to lrt or rt technology would be costly but the cheaper cost of surface/elevated expansion would make up the cost the further it's extended. I thought people wanted transit to the zoo.