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Surface LRT lines don't have to adhere to a single, city-wide stop spacing standard.

Finch West may be just fine with the currently planned stop spacing, about 670 m on average. Residents of North Etobicoke traveling to jobs or for other reasons will likely outnumber Humber College students traveling from Finch West subway to the college. Then, cutting local stops isn't beneficial.

If Eglinton West is going to see higher proportion of riders traveling end to end, between the Mt Dennis RER station (or Eglinton West subway station) and the Airport lands, then a wider stop spacing is appropriate. Perhaps it would be 1 km or 1.5 km on average, with a parallel local bus.

Even for Eglinton West, I wouldn't want to cut major connection stops such as Islington or Royal York. Losing such connections kind of defeats the purpose of building fast transit lines.
 
Rainforest said:
Surface LRT lines don't have to adhere to a single, city-wide stop spacing standard.

Finch West may be just fine with the currently planned stop spacing, about 670 m on average. Residents of North Etobicoke traveling to jobs or for other reasons will likely outnumber Humber College students traveling from Finch West subway to the college. Then, cutting local stops isn't beneficial.

If Eglinton West is going to see higher proportion of riders traveling end to end, between the Mt Dennis RER station (or Eglinton West subway station) and the Airport lands, then a wider stop spacing is appropriate. Perhaps it would be 1 km or 1.5 km on average, with a parallel local bus.

Even for Eglinton West, I wouldn't want to cut major connection stops such as Islington. Losing such connections kind of defeats the purpose of building fast transit lines.
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With discount fares between the TTC and UPX coming in January, if people want to get to the airport fast, they'll use UPX. If they want to save $$$, they'll use the Eglinton Crosstown West LRT, which would be not that fast.
 
W. K. Lis said:
With discount fares between the TTC and UPX coming in January, if people want to get to the airport fast, they'll use UPX. If they want to save $$$, they'll use the Eglinton Crosstown West LRT, which would be not that fast.
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I see your point. But, LRT will serve the employment areas in addition to the terminals; UPX doesn't go there.
 
Rainforest said:
Surface LRT lines don't have to adhere to a single, city-wide stop spacing standard.

Finch West may be just fine with the currently planned stop spacing, about 670 m on average. Residents of North Etobicoke traveling to jobs or for other reasons will likely outnumber Humber College students traveling from Finch West subway to the college. Then, cutting local stops isn't beneficial.

If Eglinton West is going to see higher proportion of riders traveling end to end, between the Mt Dennis RER station (or Eglinton West subway station) and the Airport lands, then a wider stop spacing is appropriate. Perhaps it would be 1 km or 1.5 km on average, with a parallel local bus.

Even for Eglinton West, I wouldn't want to cut major connection stops such as Islington or Royal York. Losing such connections kind of defeats the purpose of building fast transit lines.
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I agree with this totally except 1.5 km is too wide, stop at every arterial for bus route transfers. n/s concession roads in etobicoke are 1 km apart. LRT as a technology is so flexible and we should be taking full advantage of it, not all LRT lines in toronto have to be the same and eglinton will be a great demonstration of the ways lrt can operate (as a sort of express surface route in the east, underground like a subway in the middle, and then a quick rail line on the surface on the west).
 
Construction has begun on the tempory bus terminal a few months past when Metrolinx and the TTC announced the start of it. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for it to go up and how it will be used. My guess from the looks of the placement of it. I assume it will function much how Pape satin did before it was renovated.

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adrianaliu said:
I agree with this totally except 1.5 km is too wide, stop at every arterial for bus route transfers. n/s concession roads in etobicoke are 1 km apart. LRT as a technology is so flexible and we should be taking full advantage of it, not all LRT lines in toronto have to be the same and eglinton will be a great demonstration of the ways lrt can operate (as a sort of express surface route in the east, underground like a subway in the middle, and then a quick rail line on the surface on the west).
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You are right; major arterials are about 1 km apart in that area, so a 1.5 km spacing won't really work. We would have approx. 1 km spacing from Mt Dennis all the way to Martin Grove.

A longer gap would appear west of Martin Grove, as the LRT will be crossing the 401/427 ramps maze. The next stop would be either at Renforth Gateway or on Dixon road, dependent on the selected route.
 
W. K. Lis said:
From the latest report (see link), I looked closely at the roadways. I asked them at the meeting that it looks like the buses will use the road leading to Eglinton Avenue as an exit only (judging by the lane arrows). They say, "Yes", that the buses may have to use Black Creek Drive and Photography Drive as an entrance because the other road is too narrow for two way bus traffic. That road would only be used by the buses to egress to Eglinton Avenue West.

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This could mean a big increase in travel time for buses to enter the Mt. Dennis Station bus terminal. It will not be 5+ minutes for the Jane buses, but more like 8+ minutes. Judging by the traffic jams currently on Black Creek Drive, it'll be more like 10+ minutes.

They should consider widening that road from Eglinton, to reduce travel time for the buses.
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Got a reply via e-mail from Community Relations and Issues Specialist, Crosstown LRT, Capital Projects Group:

Thanks for your email and interest in the Eglinton Crosstown LRT.

Due to the station design and site layout, it is not possible to have a direct route from Eglinton into the new bus terminal. The new bridge being designed will have the ability to carry buses, bikes and cars to the drop off area and planned bus loop.

I hope this answers your question, but please feel free to contact our office again if you have any additional questions.

Regards​
 
W. K. Lis said:
Got a reply via e-mail from Community Relations and Issues Specialist, Crosstown LRT, Capital Projects Group:

Thanks for your email and interest in the Eglinton Crosstown LRT.

Due to the station design and site layout, it is not possible to have a direct route from Eglinton into the new bus terminal. The new bridge being designed will have the ability to carry buses, bikes and cars to the drop off area and planned bus loop.

I hope this answers your question, but please feel free to contact our office again if you have any additional questions.

Regards​
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So everyone with metropass is just going to get off at Weston/Eg and walk in the station. No point of wasting 3-5 minutes on that huge loop. I really sucks for those taking the 89 through the station. I guess people will have to get use to it. Before Kennedy and Lawrence East station open, buses to have to make a big loop and sometimes wait at the station. The same goes to the Humber College North Campus bus terminal.
 
These all-glass Crosstown LRT stations are going to look like total crap 10 or 15 years from now when we inevitably fail to properly maintain them.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
These all-glass Crosstown LRT stations are going to look like total crap 10 or 15 years from now when we inevitably fail to properly maintain them.
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Depends upon if the fiscal conservatives (lower case "c") get control of the politicians (both at the local, provincial, and federal levels) at budget times. They are currently in charge in Toronto, but not to an extreme (yet).
 
Used to see cleaners on the subway platforms every day and night. Today, they are a rare occurrence. Reason: budget cuts, cuts, cuts. And "they" wan more "cuts".
 
Not sure if this has been posted but it looks like there's a new website for the Eglinton West LRT: http://www.eglintonwestlrt.ca/

There are upcoming public meetings:
Your input to these on-going studies will help shape plans for our new Eglinton West LRT. Help build the future of your community by taking part in all engagement activities, including attending the first round of Public Meetings (on November 13 and 15), following our Facebook Page and Twitter Account and subscribing to the Project Mailing List to receive Project Updates.
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W. K. Lis said:
Used to see cleaners on the subway platforms every day and night. Today, they are a rare occurrence. Reason: budget cuts, cuts, cuts. And "they" wan more "cuts".
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well.... things have never been the same without the "garbage train" :(
 
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