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Amare said:
Streetcars usually slow at all signalized intersections now, regardless of whether they operate in an ROW or now. It's part of the TTC's idiotic SOP for streetcars.

The effect likely feels more pronounced on routes which operate in an ROW since streetcars operate at a marginally higher rate of speed.
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but wait i thought they are NOT streetcars..... :rolleyes:
 
I don't really like the slow orders. However, they should matter much less for the surface section of ECLRT than for the legacy streetcars.

The intersections and the traffic lights are spaced much wider on that part of Eglinton than in downtown. And, about half of those intersections will have ECLRT stops, where the trains would have to slow down anyway.
 
Rainforest said:
I don't really like the slow orders. However, they should matter much less for the surface section of ECLRT than for the legacy streetcars.

The intersections and the traffic lights are spaced much wider on that part of Eglinton than in downtown. And, about half of those intersections will have ECLRT stops, where the trains would have to slow down anyway.
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I wonder if all the doors will automagically open whenever the vehicles stop on the surface stops.

It's not an issue for the underground section, but seems like a waste of energy and heat/cooling to open all doors outside if it's not required.
 
valvenis said:
I wonder if all the doors will automagically open whenever the vehicles stop on the surface stops.

It's not an issue for the underground section, but seems like a waste of energy and heat/cooling to open all doors outside if it's not required.
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do the cars have buttons on the outside to open the doors? if no then it will be subway style.
 
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valvenis said:
I wonder if all the doors will automagically open whenever the vehicles stop on the surface stops.

It's not an issue for the underground section, but seems like a waste of energy and heat/cooling to open all doors outside if it's not required.
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I mean they open on the streetcars whether people press those buttons or not on them. So I imagine they will
 
cplchanb said:
not necessarily. ive had times where i had to press the button myself. its really to the discretion of the operator.
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I don't think it is. I've spoken to a number of streetcar ops over the years, and while none of these conversations has been recent, they all said the SOP called for opening all the doors.

The only exceptions to the rule I have come across are when a car is ahead of schedule at a stop, and all the doors have closed, the driver leaves the buttons activating for last minute stragglers to open, and when the car is laying over while at the same time taking on passengers, like the 507 at Long Branch.
 
The Infrastructure Services presentation to Budget Ctte is now online.


The very top item caught my attention.

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What is the unfunded ECLRT Pedestrian Concourse? I don't remember this as a broken out project.
 
^Two other interesting tidbits in that chart

- Dufferin Dunn and Dowling bridges in 26-27 hints at timeframe for GO electrification, as I can't see the wires getting strung until those bridges are complete
- Good to see Eglinton East and Waterfront LRT on the list, but the cash flow extends a long way out

- Paul
 
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Looking at those numbers, the city is spending shockingly little on capital investments in roads for the size of the roads network it maintains. That number should probably be 3-4x as much.

Probably not the right thread for that though.
 
crs1026 said:
^Two other interesting tidbits in that chart

- Dufferin Dunn and Dowling bridges in 26-27 hints at timeframe for GO electrification, as I can't see the wires getting strung until those bridges are complete
- Good to see Eglinton East and Waterfront LRT on the list, but the cash flow extends a long way out

- Paul
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innsertnamehere said:
Looking at those numbers, the city is spending shockingly little on capital investments in roads for the size of the roads network it maintains. That number should probably be 3-4x as much.

Probably not the right thread for that though.
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Just a reminder that the chart is not what is funded; but what is not funded.

I have posted the complete funded list elsewhere; I believe in the Olivia Chow thread.
 
This is welcome news for the area

Road and Sidewalk Reinstatement at Eglinton Station​

As early as Friday, January 19, 2024​

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What Work is Taking Place?
As early as Friday, January 19, 2024, crews at Eglinton Station will be implementing the final traffic configuration at the Yonge Street and Eglinton Avenue intersection. One lane of through traffic in each direction will be reinstated on Eglinton Avenue at Yonge Street and on Eglinton Avenue West at Duplex Avenue. One lane of through traffic in each direction will be reinstated on Duplex Avenue at Eglinton Avenue West. Two lanes of traffic in each direction will be reinstated on Yonge Street at Eglinton Avenue. Access to Holly Street from Eglinton Avenue East will be reinstated, and vice-versa.

The eastbound left turn lane from Eglinton Avenue West onto Duplex Avenue southbound will be restricted between 7:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on Monday – Sunday, with police and TTC vehicles exempt. All turns at Yonge Street and Eglinton Avenue will remain restricted, with police and TTC vehicles exempt. The left turn from Holly Street onto Eglinton Avenue East westbound will be restricted. All sidewalks on Eglinton Avenue between Duplex Avenue and Holly Street will be reinstated (including Cowbell Lane). All sidewalks on Yonge Street between 2289 Yonge Street and 2200 Yonge Street will be reinstated. Traffic Control Personnel and/or a Paid Duty Officer will be present while the final configuration is being implemented. Following the implementation of this configuration, short term periodic lane reductions may be required to facilitate special activities.

What to Expect
The final traffic configuration will be implemented at Eglinton Station. All traffic lanes and sidewalks on Eglinton Avenue will be reinstated between Duplex Avenue and Holly Street (including Cowbell Lane). Access to Holly Street from Eglinton Avenue will be reinstated, and vice-versa. Traffic Control Personnel and/or a Paid Duty Officer will be present while the final configuration is being implemented.

HOURS OF WORK
•As early as Friday, January 19, 2024.
•Overnight work may be required while the final configuration is being implemented.
• Work may be rescheduled due to inclement weather or unforeseen circumstances.

TRAFFIC DETAILS
•The final traffic configuration at the Yonge Street and Eglinton Avenue will be implemented.
•One lane of through traffic in each direction will be reinstated on Eglinton Avenue at Yonge Street and on Eglinton Avenue West at Duplex Avenue.
•One lane of through traffic in each direction will be reinstated on Duplex Avenue at Eglinton Avenue West.
•Two lanes of traffic in each direction will be reinstated on Yonge Street at Eglinton Avenue.
•Access to Holly Street from Eglinton Avenue East will be reinstated, and vice-versa.
•The westbound left turn lane from Eglinton Avenue West onto Duplex Avenue southbound will be restricted between 7:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on Monday – Sunday, with police and TTC vehicles exempt. •All turns at Yonge Street and Eglinton Avenue will remain restricted, with police and TTC vehicles exempt.
•The left turn from Holly Street onto Eglinton Avenue East westbound will be restricted.
•Following the implementation of this configuration, short term periodic lane reductions may be required to facilitate special activities.

PEDESTRIAN DETAILS
•All sidewalks on Eglinton Avenue between Duplex Avenue and Holly Street will be reinstated (including Cowbell Lane).
•All sidewalks on Yonge Street between 2289 Yonge Street and 2200 Yonge Street will be reinstated.

TRANSIT INFORMATION
• Access to TTC will be maintained at all times.
• Please visit www.ttc.ca for more information.
 
Yonge and Eglinton was still a huge mess on Monday. The sides of the roadway and bike lane were still a foot deep. Let's see if it actually open up on Friday.
 
cplchanb said:
do the cars have buttons on the outside to open the doors? if no then it will be subway style.
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Since the LRVs used on the Crosstown and KWs LRT are from the same contract there is little difference between the trains, conceivably they will be identical. KWs LRVs have buttons on both the inside and outside, they also use the TTC chime.

valvenis said:
I wonder if all the doors will automagically open whenever the vehicles stop on the surface stops.

It's not an issue for the underground section, but seems like a waste of energy and heat/cooling to open all doors outside if it's not required.
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In KW the way it works really depends on the time of the year. When the LRT was up and running in 2019 the button on the doors always had to be pressed in order to open. Once COVID hit they quickly changed that so every door opened at each station regardless of how many passengers wanted to get on or off the LRV. Since then it has pretty much stayed the same however in the winter they tend to change it so you have to hit the buttons again. With how mild winter has been so far they didn't do it until this past week, it threw many people for a loop.
 
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