[crs1026]

Paint is cheaper than building a roof, but rubber seals degrade from UV. Water will eventually find its way in, regardless of whether the cars are carrying passengers or sitting unused.
There was really no way to shrink-wrap the Crosstown fleet - or maybe they could have been, for a time anyways, although Toronto’s damp climate is unlike a desert airplane boneyard - but the aging of the carbodies started at delivery and the clock is running, roof or no roof.
Had the construction happened on schedule the cars would be out in service all day and the MSF would be empty - so I don’t fault anyone for designing the MSF as outdoor storage. The roof would be moot. But we should have no illusions - the Crosstown fleet has begun to age.

- Paul

 

[reinventingthewheel]

Could a case for subsidized housing be built above the yard such that the yard is covered? I know soundproofing would be a challenge, but it could make use of dead air space.

If you look closely at the proposed Thorncliffe TOC and Ontario Line OMSF you’ll see that a portion of the yard will actually be underneath the apartments/mixed use buildings.

 

[Rainforest]

Don't know if this has already been asked but.............seeing the speed limit on Eglinton is 50km/hr, will the LRT have an exemption from this {ie 70km/hr} or is this $12 billion "rapid" transit line going to warp out at 50?

For the tunnel portions and elevated portions, pretty sure the street speed limit does not apply.

For street-median portion, don't know, but even if it does then the impact on the travel time will be small. If the average stop spacing is 700 m, and the comfortable acceleration / deceleration is no greater than 1 m/s^2: the time to get from one stop to the next will be 64 sec if the top speed is 50 kph, or 55 sec if the top speed is 70 kph. You save 9 seconds per stop.

Even if the acceleration was 2 m/s^2: that time will be 57 sec if the top speed is 50 kph, or 45 sec if the top speed is 70 kph. Thus, 12 seconds per stop.

A lot of time is spent servicing the stops, and some time is spent accelerating and decelerating. The % of the overall travel time saved by allowing 70 kph travel speed instead of 50 kph will be a lot less than what one might expect just comparing the two numbers.

 

[dowlingm]

For the tunnel portions and elevated portions, pretty sure the street speed limit does not apply.

For street-median portion, don't know, but even if it does then the impact on the travel time will be small.

Crosstown Eglinton East speed limit is 60 - see recommendation 6

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ie/bgrd/backgroundfile-164884.pdf

 

[chrisw]

There's downhill portions where they're able to speed up fast.

 

[Northern Light]

In a report to the next meeting of the Infrastructure and Environment Ctte, we learn that the City has managed to wrangle an extra 5M out of Mx towards road resurfacing and will be resurfacing much of Eglinton over the tunneled sections of the Crosstown this year and next.

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/ie/bgrd/backgroundfile-243070.pdf

 

[turbanplanner]

In a report to the next meeting of the Infrastructure and Environment Ctte, we learn that the City has managed to wrangle an extra 5M out of Mx towards road resurfacing and will be resurfacing much of Eglinton over the tunneled sections of the Crosstown this year and next.

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/ie/bgrd/backgroundfile-243070.pdf

LMFAO At its meeting on April 4, 2019, City Council adopted Item MM6.18 entitled "You BrokeIt, You Fix It

 

[T3G]

hope that resurfacing doesn't take the roof off the tunnels

 

[christiesplits]

Quick question: Will bikes be allowed on the Crosstown vehicles?

 

[kev1n1m]

Can I suggest mods change the title to Line 5: Eglinton Crosstown LRT?

Leaving unknown height and storey count isn't very helpful and has always bothered this OCD impatient Line 5 user

 

[Voltz]

In a report to the next meeting of the Infrastructure and Environment Ctte, we learn that the City has managed to wrangle an extra 5M out of Mx towards road resurfacing and will be resurfacing much of Eglinton over the tunneled sections of the Crosstown this year and next.

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/ie/bgrd/backgroundfile-243070.pdf

I don't see a mention of implementing Eglinton Connects, or the bike lanes at least, with this work, I would hope they do.

 

[Northern Light]

I don't see a mention of implementing Eglinton Connects, or the bike lanes at least, with this work, I would hope they do.

My understanding is that changes that are contemplated under Eglinton Connects, that do not require road reconstruction, will be delivered as part of this work.

Changes that do require reconstruction will wait.

This is not big bucks, it likely represents about 15M in work, excluding anything funded out of the cycling budget.

 

[Amare]

Let's hope that the road resurfacing contractors dont puncture a hole through the Crosstown tunnel which would necessitate some more non-service

On that note, maybe the city will get Sanscon to do the work! This is so exciting, I cant take all the suspense.

 

[pmacpherson68]

In a report to the next meeting of the Infrastructure and Environment Ctte, we learn that the City has managed to wrangle an extra 5M out of Mx towards road resurfacing and will be resurfacing much of Eglinton over the tunneled sections of the Crosstown this year and next.

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/ie/bgrd/backgroundfile-243070.pdf

Im willing to bet that the 15M in required road repairs has already resulted in 30M in damaged vehicle tires, wheels, shocks and steering...

 

[Northern Light]

hope that resurfacing doesn't take the roof off the tunnels

LOL.....not even remotely possible; though I totally understand the cynicism.

The difference in depth is substantial.