[jordanmkasla2009]

Based on the article the only thing that seems to be standing in the way of an opening date is 95 fully trained TTC drivers and some minor teething issues that could easily be worked out while they are training the drivers. Once that's done the TTC can take over and the 3 months of simulated service begins before opening

 

[rbt]

Did you read the article? They are actively training TTC staff for operations.

The line is incredibly close. Construction is effectively 100% complete and it's just a matter of staffing the line up. I would be surprised if it doesn't open by end of year.

Sigh, Yes I mistakenly said "TTC operators" when I meant "TTC operations". Operations including their inspection/maintenance teams too.

There's a big difference between being shown the controls in the cab and puttering back and forth on the track, and the maintenance team being allowed to take all their measuring devices through it. TTC did have full access at one point, then the contractor asked for them to be removed because they kept bringing up issues where TTC spec wasn't met, like rails being out of alignment by a few mm, but the Crosslinx tender wasn't that specific. Crosslinx was legally in the right to demand TTC removal and I've not seen anything from Metrolinx or Crosslinx about the issues TTC staff were bringing up. Were they resolved? Was it decided the contract didn't require it so they're still issues? Will there be work after Crosslinx releases the project to Metrolinx?

Crosslinx is responsible for maintenance but AFAIK they don't pay for bus substitution service when Eglinton Line needs repairs.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

Sigh, Yes I mistakenly said "TTC operators" when I meant "TTC operations". Operations including their inspection/maintenance teams too.

There's a big difference between being shown the controls in the cab and puttering back and forth on the track, and the maintenance team being allowed to take all their measuring devices through it. TTC did have full access at one point, then the contractor asked for them to be removed because they kept bringing up issues where TTC spec wasn't met, like rails being out of alignment by a few mm, but the Crosslinx tender wasn't that specific. Crosslinx was legally in the right to demand TTC removal and I've not seen anything from Metrolinx or Crosslinx about the issues TTC staff were bringing up. Were they resolved? Was it decided the contract didn't require it so they're still issues? Will there be work after Crosslinx releases the project to Metrolinx?

Crosslinx is responsible for maintenance but AFAIK they don't pay for bus substitution service when Eglinton Line needs repairs.

The Flexities have an absolute minimum gauge of 1425mm between the rails. Typically the allowed tolerance during the construction phase is -0.00mm/+3.00mm to ensure service starts with an optimal track gauge. During the maintenance phase, however a tolerance of -5.0mm/+15.0mm is considered perfectly acceptable. It's entirely possible that the TTC staff may have mixed up the numbers or misread the specifications.

 

[allengeorge]

Did you read the article? They are actively training TTC staff for operations.

The line is incredibly close. Construction is effectively 100% complete and it's just a matter of staffing the line up. I would be surprised if it doesn't open by end of year.

Still going with my prediction of March 2025

 

[toronstruction]

Based on the article the only thing that seems to be standing in the way of an opening date is 95 fully trained TTC drivers and some minor teething issues that could easily be worked out while they are training the drivers. Once that's done the TTC can take over and the 3 months of simulated service begins before opening

Maybe it will end up opening in December after all

 

[Markster]

Maybe it will end up opening in December after all

Jeez, 3 months out from today is practically October already.

 

[drum118]

Did you read the article? They are actively training TTC staff for operations.

The line is incredibly close. Construction is effectively 100% complete and it's just a matter of staffing the line up. I would be surprised if it doesn't open by end of year.

Training staff how to teach drivers is one thing, training drivers and having drivers able to run the line is a different story. Then there is the scheduling of service as well testing the service to make it is correct for opening day is another story. End of the day, 2025 will be opening day,

Close, but no cigars at this time

 

[pw20]

Given we were told we would have a 3 mo lead time from announcement to opening date, we're running out of time for this to open in 2024 (I'd be surprised if they launched it in December given holiday season, but who am I to say), which means if this isn't announced by August, see you spring 2025 (I can't see Metrolinx wanting to open this in Jan or Feb and risk snow but again, who am I to say)?

 

[TossYourJacket]

Given we were told we would have a 3 mo lead time from announcement to opening date, we're running out of time for this to open in 2024 (I'd be surprised if they launched it in December given holiday season, but who am I to say), which means if this isn't announced by August, see you spring 2025 (I can't see Metrolinx wanting to open this in Jan or Feb and risk snow but again, who am I to say)?

The TYSSE opened in mid-December 2017, so who knows. Obviously it didn't have a surface section, so not quite the same thing, but it's not unprecedented for a December opening to happen. I think if they can open it in December, they will, just to say they opened in 2024.

 

[marcus_a_j]

If opening day is between December and March, watch a massive snowstorm hit the City the night before and delay the opening a few more days.

 

[JoMax213]

Wow… we really are almost there. I’ve been lurking on this thread for at least a year now reading updates and discussions, and it really feels like the grand finale is close. Just, beyond exciting!

 

[unrealestate]

can we get a poll going? im saying Nov 2024

 

[Metroscapes]

LOL its about time. Eglinton and lesie portal.
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Modify the LRVs with a wedge plow, problem solved.

AoD

Wouldn't be a problem if we had constructed the line as a subway. Just saying.

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The time for discussing how the line should have been built is 14 years gone. It's a waste of time to talk about. The only thing to talk about now is what steps can be taken to mitigate the shortcomings of the line in its present form.

The first question we should be asking ourselves is why is the line nearly flush with the roadway to begin with? Putting up a raised concrete or steel divider can't prevent access to the trackway in all circumstances, but could have prevented this particular incident.

I'm late to the party here, but isn't grass the best low-cost mitigation here? is this a section slated for grass, given the concrete isn't flush with the rails for emergency access?

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

I'm late to the party here, but isn't grass the best low-cost mitigation here? is this a section slated for grass, given the concrete isn't flush with the rails for emergency access?

I am not sure how grass would keep anyone from entering the tracks - considering even rumble strips didn't do so on Queen's Quay. What will truly get that job done is an unforgiving licensing system that keep people with no business on the road away from them.

AoD

 

[Metroscapes]

I am not sure how grass would keep anyone from entering the tracks - considering even rumble strips didn't do so on Queen's Quay. What will truly get that job done is an unforgiving licensing system that keep people with no business on the road away from them.

AoD

I think a huge patch of green has the best chance of catching someone's eye rather than more concrete and steel measures in an already busy visual environment.