StCatharinesCitizen
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Name one other politician thats been critisized other than Tim Hudak. This whole forum aside from actual architectural and engineering comments, consists of leftist views. Public funding, billions of tax dollars collected and spent on projects that go way over schedule and way over budget. Private companies dont want to lose money doing projects so they do them right and they do them fast. Government on the other hand has cash loads to rely on if the project goes overbudget seeing as our taxes in Canada are insanely high, although I give credit to Stephen Harper and the PC's for lowering taxes and improving the chances of private investment in this country by reducing corporate taxes which will in turn give us back far more money than we bargained for.
Sorry for getting political but I have strong views and like to share them.
Getting back to the subject, I believe Rob Ford will be successful in his plan through private investors aching to get their hands on prime waterfront property, but Waterfront Toronto WILL work with them to make sure there is still public access such as a board walk (like in front of corus and george brown). Give him a chance, this could be the greatest thing a mayor has ever done for the city. NO NFL STADIUM BY THE WAY. It was mentioned in the article, but I would be happy to see a cash cow like that move into the city anyways. Ferris wheels of the record-breaking scale seem to bring a world class standard to cities (Dubai, Singapore, London, Berlin etc.), I think it will be great to not only get a view of the city from up top, but also a birds eye view from the portlands with the full skyline in sight. Mall sounds like a good investment along with the parklands at the future Pan Am site and waterfront hotels are a great idea too.
BRING THE PUBLIC AND THE TOURISTS ALIKE TO THE WATERFRONT! VOTE ROB FORDS PLAN!
Its about the money. When a shopper goes out, they want a one stop destination where they can get everything they need, hence why malls exist and thrive. No matter where you build this thing, it will make money, the waterfront property is a bonus and they would absolutely incorporate the water into the mall which would look fantastic. Why not go for the biggest if someone else will pay for it. Its what almost every other major city in the world is doing.
In the mayoral election thread ... Giambrone, Miller, Pantalone, Thomson, Rossi, Smitherman, Lastman, McGuinty ...Name one other politician thats been critisized other than Tim Hudak.
Getting back to the subject, I believe Rob Ford will be successful in his plan through private investors aching to get their hands on prime waterfront property, but Waterfront Toronto WILL work with them to make sure there is still public access such as a board walk (like in front of corus and george brown).
Give him a chance, this could be the greatest thing a mayor has ever done for the city.
NO NFL STADIUM BY THE WAY. It was mentioned in the article, but I would be happy to see a cash cow like that move into the city anyways.
Ferris wheels of the record-breaking scale seem to bring a world class standard to cities (Dubai, Singapore, London, Berlin etc.)
I think it will be great to not only get a view of the city from up top, but also a birds eye view from the portlands with the full skyline in sight.
Mall sounds like a good investment along with the parklands at the future Pan Am site and waterfront hotels are a great idea too.
This just another thread trashing the Fords, but thats good cause there are now about 5 related threads on the go.... which means that for good or for bad they are the most talked about individuals in Toronto...
For every person in Toronto that hates them, theres 2-3 that like him..so who cares wtf they think of them on this forum...just more hot air to be blown around. lol
You really think the majority of the city likes him? More people voted against him at the election, than for him. And now suddenly you think those that voted against him, like him?For every person in Toronto that hates them, theres 2-3 that like him..
In the mayoral election thread ... Giambrone, Miller, Pantalone, Thomson, Rossi, Smitherman, Lastman, McGuinty ...
None perhaps as harshly as Rob Ford. But that seems well deserved.
This just another thread trashing the Fords, but thats good cause there are now about 5 related threads on the go.... which means that for good or bad, they are the most talked about individuals in Toronto...
For every person in Toronto that hates them, theres 2-3 that like him..so who cares wtf they think of them on this forum...just more hot air to be blown around. lol
Good grief. Are you completely and absolutely bonkers or something?He has proposed a viable plan including an improvement to our transit system, tourist destination, world-class status waterfront while still maintaining an accessable waterfront.
There is already private land on the waterfront which remains undeveloped because the city hasn't made the necessary investments to make it work. Without the West Don Lands project much land would need to remain empty because it was in the flood plain. They are calling what has been done already a boondoggle... like the public access such as the board walk, Corus, and George Brown. When the private sector owned property they built condos with no public access or sat on their land assets. The private sector planned a Home Depot on the waterfront. The port lands aren't developable without the investment Waterfront Toronto, via 3 governments, is making. The land is a contaminated flood plain with no sewer capacity and no public amenities. The property directly fronting the water has a view and the rest is derelict industrial land.
Sure, the waterfront has been a project since the 60s and finally there is the organization that is making it happen with sound planning and international design competitions. Getting rid of that and whipping together a plan of a mall, monorail, and world's biggest ferris wheel on land the size of the waterfront to Dundas, Jarvis to University, has a chance of being the greatest thing a mayor has every done for the city? I don't think so. Two football buffs who had their dad's business handed to them are not going to pull off something that bests plans that have been winning awards on the international stage.
A cash cow? Many cities with stadiums end up needing to put a stadium tax on tourist amenities because they are financial sink holes much like the SkyDome was.
Who heard of those places before the ferris wheels? Lord knows I want to see all four cities for the ferris wheel.
Sure, Toronto doesn't really have a place to see the city from up top. Being in the port lands you need to get up high to see over the water which in windy conditions can swell up over a foot high.
Yes, a mall is a good investment... which is why the football twins are suggesting it rather than investors. Investors are of course a timid bunch who sit back waiting for someone to scribble on a napkin. Woodbine Live is going gang busters. Versace wants to open more stores in Toronto but they can't afford the high rents family run laundromats are being charged.
Good grief. Are you completely and absolutely bonkers or something?
It's the most fucked up plan ever to be conceived. Doug Ford admitted to the press that he's been involved in back room discussions with private financiers. Not only is the plan completely bonkers ... it appears that the Fords are corrupt.
It's like old-fashioned corrupt politics out of the 1950s. It's no wonder Ford keeps mentioning Chicago ... is any US city as corrupt as Chicago?